The desire for getting likes and subscriptions is way to high for YouTube clowns. He probably got the shivers thinking about how many likes he was going to get after finding this issue.
This doesn't look good for IBI barrels...
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The desire for getting likes and subscriptions is way to high for YouTube clowns. He probably got the shivers thinking about how many likes he was going to get after finding this issue.
The "accuracy issue" being alleged has nothing to do with the extractor machining. I'm not convinced there is an issue in that department, a little bit of vertical could easily be due to the ammo not being properly tested for the barrel, some barrels are pickier than others but do indeed shoot quite well with the correct pairing of ammo. Use of a tuner could also correct the vertical, assuming there is no underlying problem otherwise with the barrel.
Mistakes happen, it's all about how a company handles them, and it appears IBI is making it right as a reputable company should. Several years ago Lilja did a group buy of CZ 455 barrels with a cone breech, however they cut the cone lip way too thin and the chamber was splitting for everyone. Lilja took all the barrels back for re-work at no cost. For me, due to import/export regs, I got sent a brand new blank that went on to shoot the 1/4" challenge. Lilja took care of me 110% and Carson is a great guy to deal with. I've got an IBI blank that I need to get around to fitting up, feeling hopeful it'll be a tack driver.
Mistakes happen, it's all about how a company handles them, and it appears IBI is making it right as a reputable company should. Several years ago Lilja did a group buy of CZ 455 barrels with a cone breech, however they cut the cone lip way too thin and the chamber was splitting for everyone. Lilja took all the barrels back for re-work at no cost. For me, due to import/export regs, I got sent a brand new blank that went on to shoot the 1/4" challenge. Lilja took care of me 110% and Carson is a great guy to deal with. I've got an IBI blank that I need to get around to fitting up, feeling hopeful it'll be a tack driver.
The barrel may have been defective when delivered, with the extractor cut breaking through to the chamber. Would not this have been noticed when laddie was inspecting the barrel before installing it?
Or, laddie damaged the barrel himself.
It may be that fired cases would have expanded into the area where they were unsupported. Any mention of the condition of the cases? And as RabidMU45 has asked, how would this cause vertical stringing? And how much vertical stringing is there?
So IBI is replacing the barrel no questions asked. Good for them.
Or, laddie damaged the barrel himself.
It may be that fired cases would have expanded into the area where they were unsupported. Any mention of the condition of the cases? And as RabidMU45 has asked, how would this cause vertical stringing? And how much vertical stringing is there?
So IBI is replacing the barrel no questions asked. Good for them.
That's not great, for sure. But I wonder how a flaw so close to the beginning of the chamber effects accuracy? Is it damage to the projectile while it is being chambered?
(never mind, now I see others have the same thoughts).
(never mind, now I see others have the same thoughts).
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The guy in the video speculates that gas is leaking past the casing as a result, causing inconsistent velocities. How the majority of the case deeper in the chamber is therefore insufficient to seal seems rather confusing to me. There is not much vertical at all, very similar to the 0.3's groups in Poffels target. It's like the guy thinks it should be shooting like a tuned BR rifle with meticulously lot tested ammo
He's probably got bipod hop 
While there were a few errors in the presentation, my read on it was informative. The presentation was well done especially the fast forward when shooting.
When three of the shooters in one of the groups I subscribe to had problems, the were in contact with IBI.
None of the problems were attributed to the barrels by IBI but to stock bedding issues.
IBI had installed some of those barrels so the problem should have been resolved at that stage.
IIRC only one of those barrels remains on the firing line.
Still, systematic testing of ammunition remains the answer to solve many issues.
When three of the shooters in one of the groups I subscribe to had problems, the were in contact with IBI.
None of the problems were attributed to the barrels by IBI but to stock bedding issues.
IBI had installed some of those barrels so the problem should have been resolved at that stage.
IIRC only one of those barrels remains on the firing line.
Still, systematic testing of ammunition remains the answer to solve many issues.
I contacted IBI about having a 22 cal. barrel chambered for 22 short. Answer NO. How about receiver fit for a CZ 455, barrel diameter of .710 " instead of their .707". Answer NO. Even asked if they could leave chamber un-reamed and barrel oversize and I would fit both myself. Answer NO. So I will not be buying from IBI.
Contacted IBI about purchasing a barrel chambered for 22 short. ANSWER NO. Asked about receiver fit being .710" instead of their .707". ANSWER NO. Asked if they could not chamber ream and leave barrel diameter oversize, as I would fit both. ANSWER NO. Won't be buying from IBI anytime soon as I can not buy what I what - barrel chambered for 22 short and tighter receiver fit.
Contacted IBI about purchasing a barrel chambered for 22 short. ANSWER NO. Asked about receiver fit being .710" instead of their .707". ANSWER NO. Asked if they could not chamber ream and leave barrel diameter oversize, as I would fit both. ANSWER NO. Won't be buying from IBI anytime soon as I can not buy what I what - barrel chambered for 22 short and tighter receiver fit.
This ^^^^^.
Depending on the current state of orders, product demand and/or tooling they may not be able to do a one off custom order.
Also if it is a one off custom request of something they have never made or tested before, a company may not want to "experiment" making a custom request due to the possibility of negative backlash if the product does not perform to the customer's satisfaction.
We're seeing another case of a form of victim mentality - "barrel company victimized me by sending a barrel that is broken" I need sympathy. It's just another half developed mind that can't handle the real world. Same idea as trying to order something they don't make - they don't make it, get over yourself, you're probably the only person in North America looking for that particular thing, so get on the phone to a custom barrel maker and have one made (and pay the bill for it). I'm getting sick of this 21st Century bullsh*t - how about deal with the supplier on the parts problem, if you're straight with people 9 times out of 10, they're straight with you. 1 time out of 10 you live and learn, go elsewhere.
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