This item actually work?
- Thread starter the_big_mike
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Speaking as a true intraweb expert, meaning I've read of it once or twice and have no personal knowledge whatsoever to offer for a meaningful discussion 
, I saw a recent thread where this was asked. The only guy who had actually used one said it took his groups from .75" to .5", and the guy who "read it in a gunmag" said it did nothing in extensive testing.
Hope this helped confuse the issue for you.
, I saw a recent thread where this was asked. The only guy who had actually used one said it took his groups from .75" to .5", and the guy who "read it in a gunmag" said it did nothing in extensive testing.Hope this helped confuse the issue for you.
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Barrel tuners are anything but new, they have been around since the beginning of the cartridge rifle, I would suspect.
The BOSS is supposed to do the same thing.
I prefer to match the batch lot of Ammo to my RF rifles, or handload my CF cartridges....
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The BOSS is supposed to do the same thing.
I prefer to match the batch lot of Ammo to my RF rifles, or handload my CF cartridges....
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- Ft. Mac. Alberta
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Depends on the gun / load
I have one on my Sako 7 mm STW and it definately helped my groups. I have also seen them on friends guns that never showed any change in groups. For the money I would try it if you go from 1.5" - 1" or from 1" to .75 any little thing helps. IMO.
I have one on my Sako 7 mm STW and it definately helped my groups. I have also seen them on friends guns that never showed any change in groups. For the money I would try it if you go from 1.5" - 1" or from 1" to .75 any little thing helps. IMO.
beretta boy
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Ah yes, the $ 20 fix !
Pudelpointer
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If used properly, the answer is yes. But is so FUGLY you should really try relaoding.
Who would use it??
Guy's,
Do you not owe it to your quarry to be as precise as possible to dispatch the animal in the most humane way possible?? Who cares what it looks like. I have never had a deer or moose care what it looked like. Most recreational guy's don't practice enough to call themselves good shots, so anything they can do to improve it is ok in my books.
Guy's,
Do you not owe it to your quarry to be as precise as possible to dispatch the animal in the most humane way possible?? Who cares what it looks like. I have never had a deer or moose care what it looked like. Most recreational guy's don't practice enough to call themselves good shots, so anything they can do to improve it is ok in my books.
Pudelpointer
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- Lethbridge, Alberta
I do not think that this product is going to make anyone a better shot.
A couple of rounds off the bench and... "hey, my gun is super accurate now."
The same people who think that was enough practice for the year before heading out to attempt freehand standing shots at running deer @ 300
yards are still going to do the same thing. In contrast, those who get into reloading usually do so with accuracy at least a major influence, and will practice their shooting skills so that they may realize an accurate load when they shoot one, therebye improving there shooting skills and understanding of balistics in the process.
I have offered to reload for people, loaded some test loads of different charges, and sent them off to the range. Usually they come back with 3" groups or flyers all over the paper, then I go shoot the same loads, again, and low and behold I find a load that will produce 1/2" or better. Funny enough, most never ask why the difference, or how they can improve.
I am not a great shot, as my # of misses on coyotes this year will attest, but when it comes to deer, elk and moose, I have rarely ever taken a second shot, and frankly have never NEEDED to, just panicking as they got up.
A couple of rounds off the bench and... "hey, my gun is super accurate now."
The same people who think that was enough practice for the year before heading out to attempt freehand standing shots at running deer @ 300
yards are still going to do the same thing. In contrast, those who get into reloading usually do so with accuracy at least a major influence, and will practice their shooting skills so that they may realize an accurate load when they shoot one, therebye improving there shooting skills and understanding of balistics in the process.
I have offered to reload for people, loaded some test loads of different charges, and sent them off to the range. Usually they come back with 3" groups or flyers all over the paper, then I go shoot the same loads, again, and low and behold I find a load that will produce 1/2" or better. Funny enough, most never ask why the difference, or how they can improve.
I am not a great shot, as my # of misses on coyotes this year will attest, but when it comes to deer, elk and moose, I have rarely ever taken a second shot, and frankly have never NEEDED to, just panicking as they got up.
Good Points
Good Points Pudelpointer. You are correct in many ways. I myself find if some thing helps me shoot better I will use it. Wether it works or it is all in my head the end result is I am more confident with it on my gun. That being said I still can't help beleive it would not help a few people shoot better. As for the 300 yard running shot guy's nothing with fix them. I watched a guy miss paper all day at 50 yards and then tell himself his gun must be ok as hit a doe in the head at 100 yards last year. Not much one can do with stupidity!!
Good Points Pudelpointer. You are correct in many ways. I myself find if some thing helps me shoot better I will use it. Wether it works or it is all in my head the end result is I am more confident with it on my gun. That being said I still can't help beleive it would not help a few people shoot better. As for the 300 yard running shot guy's nothing with fix them. I watched a guy miss paper all day at 50 yards and then tell himself his gun must be ok as hit a doe in the head at 100 yards last year. Not much one can do with stupidity!!
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- South Cariboo, BC
It kind of looks like something you'd find for sale in a tavern bathroom, advertising it is "ribbed or studded to increase her pleasure".
Most of us spend far more than $20 on components trying to find the perfect load to squeeze extra accuracy out of our guns, so if it actually shrinks your groups then why not use it?
I don't consider hunting a fashion show, although I realize that some people may care more about looks than performance.
Most of us spend far more than $20 on components trying to find the perfect load to squeeze extra accuracy out of our guns, so if it actually shrinks your groups then why not use it?
I don't consider hunting a fashion show, although I realize that some people may care more about looks than performance.
Its basically a cheap/simple barrel tuner. I believe Bill Calfee was the first to create barrel tuners for rimfire rifles, and from my understanding they work exceptionally well for rimfires. I believe the latest article of Bill's that I read he was talking about making tuners for centerfire rifles but there are many more complex issues with centerfire than with rimfire.
Also the tend to work better with longer/whippier barrels.
Also the tend to work better with longer/whippier barrels.
Pudelpointer
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- Lethbridge, Alberta
If you go to Bell and Carleson's site, you will find a stock design with a tuning adjustment built into the fore end. Cost more than $20 bucks though!
