This make a decent beginner trap gun?

Here's my opinion.

Tradex is a wonderful company with excellent service. If you decide to buy a gun from them you will not be disappointed. The are usually in better condition than rated I find.

Now for the gun in question: I wonder if you would be best served for your first trap gun with full/full chokes and two triggers. Not very versatile for a shotgun. At least full/mod gives you better options. Personally I would suggest a single select trigger instead of the double triggers.

I'm sure the gun itself is a great gun but I would look a bit harder and look for a full/mod with single select triggers. Who knows what you may want to use the gun for in the future.

If you can afford a better gun, have a look on the EE and maybe get a "better" gun altogether. You might outgrow this gun fairly quickly and look for something better fairly soon.

Quite often in the forums here you will here shooters urge gun buyers to "buy the proper gun the first time". It can cost you more in the end to upgrage 3 or 4 times than to buy the right gun the first time.

Glad to hear we have another trap shooter in our ranks.
 
Decent results depend on the shooter as much or more than the gun in question...

Will this gun break targets, absolutely. Is it the best choice, probably not. Value for the dollar, it may seem like a good choice at the price listed. Personally I would not recommend this gun for a 'trap' gun because of the stock setup and flat rib, double triggers are out of the ordinary for a dedicated trap gun, and full/full is not quite optimal for doubles. Also, it will possibly kick like a SOB. Seems to be the MO for the Baikal's.

There are better choices out there for not much more money for a 'trap' gun, such as the SX1 or 1100 if you liked the semi autos. However, if this is what you can afford, and you are not planning a trip to the grand next summer, then by all means it will break clays for the twice or three times that you want to go out shooting in a season.

Bill
 
I took so damn long to post a reply that everything I wanted to say was said.:redface:

Lanbers and Baikals are not trap guns. They are shot guns that could be used for clays, as well as tons of other things.

Best advice, save up $600 and buy a good used 1100 trap or SX1 trap. You may want to save up a little more, and you can find some good deals on O/U s floating around at clubs from time to time. This is all assuming that you want a trap style gun, and not one that you could use for skeet, sporting, and hunting as well.
 
Would the Lanber full over modified with single selective trigger i posted be a much much better bet?


I am not competing....just going out and having some fun. I just want something of my own and not have to trade off every shot with my buddy.

I am open to anything you can suggest.

I don't think i want a 32" barrel dedicated trap gun yet. Just something that is good for it, and can possibly be used for other things later.
 
These would all be better bets.

Browning Silver Sporting Clays (This would be my pick)

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503662



Browning Superposed

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510340

Winchester Select Energy (I left this one in the list for reference)
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=517384

Edit: I'm getting a better feel for what you want here. All the guns that you have posted up here from Trade-ex will work for you. You may also want to keep an eye out for a Mossberg Silver Reserve. There were some floating around for pretty good prices.

If you can, try to stick to single trigger, dosen't even have to be selectable. Try to find a gun with Full/mod. or even mod/mod. This will be more flexible for you. And remember, you get what you pay for. I have shot a few Lanbers and Baikals, and they were rather bossy around the recoil pad. If you can, try out some of the other actions like a pump. It will open up a whole new pile of used guns that are better quality than the Lanbers and Baikals, but still in the ball park for pricing.

It is better to shoot a quality ugly gun that fits, than to shoot a pretty cheap gun that bites.
 
to give you an idea of what i want to do a handful of times a year is this:

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this is me from Sat with my buddies Winchester Super X model 1 - full choke. First time ever shooting a shotgun, let alone clays.

Mike
 
u just posted 2 $900 guns and a $2000 one.


thats really what you suggest a new shooter buy to shoot with a few times a year?

If it is for just a few times a year, anything that will go bang with target loads will work O.K. As long as you are having fun and are happy with the amount of targets you are scoring that is all that matters.:D Trap and the other clay sports often have a way of turning into much more than a few times a year, and often many shooters go from being satisfied with scoring more than missing to wanting to bring a better game each time out. For this you will need a gun suitable for breaking targets better and one that is fit to you style and one that will last with whatever amount of shooting you wish to do. That is why BB and others will suggest that you buy more gun.
 
14094- Lanber O/U 12GA. Very good bore. 27.5 inch barrel with ventilated rib. Full over modified. Single selective trigger, extractor. Shows some handling marks. Overall very good condition.

Yes, the Lanber in my opinion is a much better choice for the occasional informal use. You have two different chokes (more versitile) and a single select trigger (don't have to take your hand off the first trigger and move to the second trigger). Tradeex rates it well.

What we are all trying to warn you of and protect you against is the inevitable trap shooting bug that is common to pick up while intending just to play around a couple times a year. We all have done it. Bought a cheap gun to bust some birds. Then you out grow the gun within a couple of months and after trying someone elses higher quality O/U get the need/desire to get a higher quality gun. But you can't because you have put your money into a cheaper gun which you can't sell.

It really is more economical (if you can at all afford it) to go with the higher end gun the first time so you don't have to buy twice.
We are not knocking your choice of gun. We all just see pitfall that you may be just about to step into and want to give you a friendly warning.

You will have decades of fun with the Lanber as long as you NEVER try anyone elses higher end O/U. If you do, you will immediately want a new better gun.
If you can at all afford $600-$900 then go for it . If you are maxed out at $400 then do what you got to do. The lanber will be an excellent gun in that price range.

Search through the EE and see what your options are at least.
 
First off, you were shooting a truly tremendous shotgun in that X-1. You can't do much better if you bought one of those.

Secondly, I've seen others shoot and I've shot as well one of those cheaper Russian O/Us. I never want to do that again, and neither did the owner. Trigger pull felt like 10 lbs, and the trigger itself felt like the edge of a butter knife. And it slammed into both the shoulder and cheek; the owner's cheek was red and swollen.

I've said it before, the best thing a cheap O/U does is convince you to spend more to get a good one.
 
first off, you were shooting a truly tremendous shotgun in that x-1. You can't do much better if you bought one of those.

Secondly, i've seen others shoot and i've shot as well one of those cheaper russian o/us. I never want to do that again, and neither did the owner. Trigger pull felt like 10 lbs, and the trigger itself felt like the edge of a butter knife. And it slammed into both the shoulder and cheek; the owner's cheek was red and swollen.

I've said it before, the best thing a cheap o/u does is convince you to spend more to get a good one.

x2.
 
i got a new 870 for 275 plus tax. it's a pump, nothing like what your looking for, but i worked very well for me shooting trap, sporting clays, skeet, you name it. a semi or o/u may be slightly easier with doubles, but with not much practice i can pump and shoot just as fast as the guys can shoot with their trap guns. origionally i got it for 3 gun matches, but since i have tried as many of the shotgun sports as i can find and they all work very well with it. i'm not reccommending this option, i'm just putting it out there. i like having one shotty that is a do it all for me.
 
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