I want a military type sniper rifle in .308 that i can also kill deer with but mostly that sniper capability so the VTR seems pretty cool but with the triangular barrel and most of the forums i have read about it have had nothing but good things to say about it but will be 950 at the end of the day and the sps tactical will be about 840 so i figure a 100 bucks difference i might as well get the one i think is better quality. And also the VTR has a 22" barrel as the SPS Tactical has a 20" barrel will that make much of a difference in range at the end of the day thanks.
Thought on the remington 700sps tactical and the vtr varmint tactical
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Any rifle can be used by a sniper... that is the trade, not the rifle. If you were to ask a sniper what the two most important attributes of his rifle are, it would be accuracy and durability. If the uber-cool scary Ninja look is what you are after, go with the cheaper of the two and dress it up.
A factory gun is a factory gun. No factory Remington model shoots consistently better than any other - not even the Sendero. The working parts are all the same, the only difference is the outside dimensions and the the stocks.
A factory gun is a factory gun. No factory Remington model shoots consistently better than any other - not even the Sendero. The working parts are all the same, the only difference is the outside dimensions and the the stocks.
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Seriously, how old are you? It's not a sniper rifle What you are looking for is a precision rifle. The only sniper part about a rifle is the trained sniper looking through it.
So other than the inherent coolness why exactly are you looking for a precision rifle for hunting. The reason I ask is because they much heavier than a standard rifle thus unpleasant to hump around all day while hunting. However if you plan on camping out in one spot, then yeah they really aren't such a bad choice. However before you make like Tom Beregner sniping deer I suggest you put alot of bullets down the tube in practice. Secondly buy the appropiate sized calibre so that you can make clean ethical deer kills at the yardage you're dreaming of. I'm sure others will chime so I'll leave it at that
So other than the inherent coolness why exactly are you looking for a precision rifle for hunting. The reason I ask is because they much heavier than a standard rifle thus unpleasant to hump around all day while hunting. However if you plan on camping out in one spot, then yeah they really aren't such a bad choice. However before you make like Tom Beregner sniping deer I suggest you put alot of bullets down the tube in practice. Secondly buy the appropiate sized calibre so that you can make clean ethical deer kills at the yardage you're dreaming of. I'm sure others will chime so I'll leave it at that
I am wondering if anyone has any opinions on these two guns it will be my first bolt action and i figured i might as well spend a little more and get a better quality gun and yes i have only recently aquired my license since turning of age
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Your first bolt gun, eh.
A factory Remington is a factory Remington. They are all the same. If you want to spend more so it looks cool go ahead. Personally if my heart was set on Remington (Remmy's are fine) than get the cheapest one I could find in a versatile caliber like 308 and shoot it a lot. A LOT. Practice, practice, practice. Spend your money on a practical gun, practical glass, and lots of ammo and range time. The heavy barrel, triangle barrels and sporter weight barrels are all churned through the same machine. They all have the same potential for accuracy. Not one is better than the other. What is better quality is usually the stock and finish. That is it. They are all durable, some are good shooters, some are not. Factory guns are not guaranteed to be sub-MOA. But most Remmy's seem to be. A 700 SPS to start out with is great. You can always take that gun to a smith after you learn to outshoot the gun and get him to put a precision barrel on it or whatever upgrades you want.
You sound like Obama calling bolt guns sniper rifles. Stop it please, this is not a video game.
A factory Remington is a factory Remington. They are all the same. If you want to spend more so it looks cool go ahead. Personally if my heart was set on Remington (Remmy's are fine) than get the cheapest one I could find in a versatile caliber like 308 and shoot it a lot. A LOT. Practice, practice, practice. Spend your money on a practical gun, practical glass, and lots of ammo and range time. The heavy barrel, triangle barrels and sporter weight barrels are all churned through the same machine. They all have the same potential for accuracy. Not one is better than the other. What is better quality is usually the stock and finish. That is it. They are all durable, some are good shooters, some are not. Factory guns are not guaranteed to be sub-MOA. But most Remmy's seem to be. A 700 SPS to start out with is great. You can always take that gun to a smith after you learn to outshoot the gun and get him to put a precision barrel on it or whatever upgrades you want.
You sound like Obama calling bolt guns sniper rifles. Stop it please, this is not a video game.
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Que?I'm sorry, I don't speak Acronym.
Seriously though, read through the FAQs and get permission for the Equipment Exchange Forums. Find a nice Remington 700 or whatever suites your needs. Savage is a good starting gun too. Find one with the options you want, in the caliber you want and get some practice. I would hate to see a young potential shooter turned away.
I hope we can help you get started. Do not be upset if you can not shoot as well as you see in the movies or in video games right off the bat. It takes time and practice. Once you get all that down then you should look at getting a better gun, or even better, take that Remington to a Gunsmith and have them do all the tinkering you want and get a great shooter. Don't worry about the fat barrels or triangles or camo stocks. Preformance is going to come from you and then as you get better your gear will have to catch up. Evenually you can buy yourself some reloading gear and be able to shoot even more. For now, keep it simple. I advise a Remington 700 SPS in 308. I would normally say a 223 so you could shoot it more but you want to hunt with it so go with a 308. Lots of ammo, even milsurp is ok for practice. Get a good get of rings and optics. I always recommend a Bushnell 3200 10x or for hunting I guess a Bushnell Tactical 5-15x40 is great value.
700 SPS $600 +/-
Bushnell Elite 5-15x40 $400 +/-
Gets you shooting and then you can spend X amount more on bullets and gas to the range.
FYI: If your heart is not set on a Remington a Stevens 200 (Savage 110) is only 380 or so and shoot just as good, sometimes better and have all sort of upgrade options down the road as well. They are not pretty, but shoot just as good as any Remmy. I have had a few and they are great to learn on. I find that the Remmys are very overpriced right now. There may be a deal on the EE, but new ones are expensive.
