Thoughts and photos of the 32-20

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Thoughts and photos of the 32 WCF (32-20)

It’s hard to say sometimes why certain cartridges can have such a powerful nostalgic hold on a fellow. My first introduction to the 32-20 cartridge was back when I was a young fellow growing up in a rural area. My best friend on a farm four miles away bought a box of 32-20 cartridges for an ancient, well-used Marlin rifle that had obviously been heavily used on some homestead back in the late 1800’s. The afternoon when he opened that box, pulled out some of those little cartridges, and fed them into that old rifle is still fresh in my memory. Perhaps it was the sight of that old homesteading rifle and those fascinating little cartridges that got a nostalgic hold on me that is at least as strong some 45 years later.

Here’s a shot of my own 32-20, originally known as the 32 W.C.F. Mine is an original Winchester Model 53 made in 1929, with ’32 W.C.F.’ marked on the barrel. It is both my daughters’ favourite gun to shoot …. no noticeable recoil and not much of a bang. As for me, it's my all time pet varmint cartridge. With a 115 grain bullet at 1,257 fps, I do have to sneak up a little closer, but that is part of the fun.

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I’ve purchased a bunch of Starline 32-20 brass and started loading them this week with my pet load of 9.5 grains of 5744. It is an accurate load but this new batch of 5744 sure meters poorly, often plus or minus 0.4 grains. For that reason, I’m planning to develop two new loads this weekend using Blue Dot and 2400. I know that 2400 meters like a dream. I’ll be saving my 5744 for larger capacity cartridges where plus or minus 0.4 doesn’t make much of a difference.

In the meantime, here is a close up of some of my loaded cartridges for your viewing pleasure. My wife thinks they are cute. By the way, the book is an original copy of Frank Tose' Trapping Tanning and Taxidermy. It is a gold mine of good info and you can get reprints of it still.

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That is a super nice looking 53. I have one in .25-20 in great condition but the wood sure isn't that Purdy! They were great handling and shooting rifles.

I share a similar sentiment for the .44 WCF in a model 92, especially a rifle or a 53. They are just a great combo for target practice, teaching new shooters or a relaxing walk in the woods. I have several .44s but still haven't found a truly special one yet. I wish that I had bought the 53 you sold a couple years ago. It was a gem.
 
I do believe I purchased that 53 and it is truly a gem, in beautiful condition. It's going nowhere soon I can tell you that.

That you did! That is a beautiful 32-20 and the only reason I sold it was that I figured it was too nice to shoot. The one I have now has more wear on it, especially under the receiver, so I don't feel so bad carrying it around and shooting it.
 
The only 32-20 that I ever owned was a Savage Model 23c back in the early 80's.
It was a sweet little rifle that accounted for lots of small game. I loaded cast
120's in 'er at 1150 fps. and was happy with it's performance on squirrels
and coons inside of 100yds. Definitely one of those "kick my ass for sellin' it"
guns.

My rifle was the same as this one, and just as clean.;)
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I ended up using one of those Savage 23C's in 32-20 for a year or so when I was a kid.
And I agree, the cartridge does have a certain 'Je ne sais quoi' . Perhaps because as a youth it was our first time handling an 'adult' cartridge?
I don't remember getting the same feeling from a .22 Hornet though...perhaps it didn't feel as substantial in the palm of our hand, eh?
 
I like stuff like this, it's always the small ones that are close to the heart. I'd love a little .25-20 svelte little lever action myself, .32-20 is even better if you cast a lot however. I've also had several .218 Bees, also a sibling of the .32-20 case of course, and they vie for my favourite small bores.
 
I've got a Savage sporter just like Shell Shucker's, however with a bit more of the brown patina than the one pictured. I'm still working my way through the 3 boxes of old Winchester white box ammo that I bought with it.

Definitely one of the favorites in my cabinet. I took it ice fishing with me in early February, and it's just a dream to carry about all day. I do plan on gearing up to cast and reload for it this summer. Thanks for the recipes! Does anyone care to comment about brass life with that thin little case?
 
That you did! That is a beautiful 32-20 and the only reason I sold it was that I figured it was too nice to shoot. The one I have now has more wear on it, especially under the receiver, so I don't feel so bad carrying it around and shooting it.

The 53 that I recall you having was a .44 wcf that you posted picks with a nice big doe several years ago. I believe that you traded an 86 for it but later sold it.
 
There is Martine cadet for sale here. I am not sure if it rebarreled, sleeved , or just rechambered to 32-20. It comes with 3 boxes of win ammo. I need to look into it more, I love these little guns.
 
The 53 that I recall you having was a .44 wcf that you posted picks with a nice big doe several years ago. I believe that you traded an 86 for it but later sold it.
yes. I did have a 53 chambered in 44-40. Beautiful and very rare little rifle but I sold it to buy a different old Winchester. This one here is the fourth Model 53 I've owned and I don't see myself parting with this one in the foreseeable future.
 
out of curiosity, other than plinking, what are you guys using 32-20 for? I see really nice guns in this calibre all the time, but personally would use it for the same stuff I use .22 LR for, which is a LOT cheaper.
 
I have a 2nd yr 92 Win in 32-20 that i use regularly in "pistol cal. cowboy sillywet". I use 96 gr (shoots the best groups) and have the odd Ram take a hit and still stand, afriend of mine uses 115 gr and kills everything he hits. As others have already stated ,recoil is non-existent, I feel the hammer strike more than the recoil !!!! Before my old eyes became too good for open sights a score of 28 or so was common with the old girl with the odd score up to 32.


A question about brass longjevity was asked. In reloading 32-20, slow and easy is your friend. If you get in a hurry you will wrinkle these thin walled cases, gauranteed. Some of my brass has been loaded 30 or more time, and with the pressures used, I have yet to split a case.

While I haven't done it yet, I'm confident that the 32-20 could be loaded up to be a very adequate "short range" deer gun. "Short range" for surety of shot placement more than limitations on the bullet.
 
out of curiosity, other than plinking, what are you guys using 32-20 for? I see really nice guns in this calibre all the time, but personally would use it for the same stuff I use .22 LR for, which is a LOT cheaper.
In addition to an enjoyable rifle to introduce people to shooting, I use it for Woodchucks and Racoons. A lot of deer have been taken with a 32-20 but that is pushing it. My brother in law once dropped a Moose with his old Marlin 32-20 but that is really pushing it. The 32-20 has significantly more puch than a 22 long rifle. I reload with cast bullets so they are cheap.
 
I too for some reason love these small bores, they are wonderfully, 22 Hornet, 218 Bee, 25-20,32-20 and the 44-40!
I have 4 22 hornets , so I am a little Nutz on this calibre, as it just brings joy! The 32-20 is also wonderful and is a longer rage round than most think? The Auzzies thought a lot of there version that there Cadet rifles have long range sights!
The cousin in thi round the 25-20 has me in its grip, I have ordered a Cooper model 38 in 25-20, but looks to be a long wait as it is development from the custom shop, I started down the road at the 2012 ShotShow with the custom shop foreman. Hopefully next year I have a gun for buster bunnies.
Great thread, sorry for getting off topic!
Cheers Dale Z!
 
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