Thoughts on Blackhawk Serpa holster? mail in rebate available
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Yeah people shoot themselves quite regularly when using guns, but strangely, a lot of the instances involve Serpas, far too many to simply be a "training" issue as so many like to say. When you've got the list that Shawn and others have mentioned, which is comprised of some of the best trained individuals and organizations on the planet, saying the holster sucks, that should be a clue. It does suck, it's cheaply made, is prone to failure of both the locking system and it's belt attachment, and sets you up for failure as well. There is absolutely zero reason to consider owning one, zero reason to use one and zero benefit to be derived if you do decide to get one. It's crap, crap crap.
Actually he disabled the sfatey on the draw, he was using a safariland thumb lock holster with another firearm. Switched to 1911 in serpa. Forgot what holster he was using then hit safety thinking it was the release yanked on gun didn't release then panicked to hit lever then finger was on trigger during draw.
So, is the SIG paddle retention holder a "Serpa Style" holder. I think it must be since it fits the description. I have one. It was cheap and uses the trigger finger to release. I kind of thought this was a potential problem holster.
I've been shopping for a different holster but haven't settled yet.
This is an image of the one I have:
It works well but I don't relish the thought of an ND. I also don't like the IWB aspect of it. I use it on my belt.
I need to learn more about retention levels and so on. Can anyone recommend an unbiased resource?
Maybe I should come out to Abby on a Friday night Skills and Drills to observe and ask a few questions so I can come out and shoot with a decent holster. Good idea?
Thanks to the OP for the question because I have been thinking about this for a while.
I've been shopping for a different holster but haven't settled yet.
This is an image of the one I have:
It works well but I don't relish the thought of an ND. I also don't like the IWB aspect of it. I use it on my belt.
I need to learn more about retention levels and so on. Can anyone recommend an unbiased resource?
Maybe I should come out to Abby on a Friday night Skills and Drills to observe and ask a few questions so I can come out and shoot with a decent holster. Good idea?
Thanks to the OP for the question because I have been thinking about this for a while.
Yabut, yabut, yabut Rob those that shoot themselves just haven't trained enuf. If you train lots than you won't shoot yourself. Uncle Harry always told me, "son if u do something long enough you will eventually get good at it". Besides Rob if you run a holster with the reputation the Serpa has you are more tacticool cuz. well cuz you are running the risk of shooting yourself and that's way cool especially if you get a real Chester limp out of it.
You can't fix stupid Rob there is no class you can run that is a cure for it. It's a permanent affliction often passed on from one generation to another. Kinda like using the pinch method to lower hammers on a CZ, same issue and ultimately the same result albeit sometimes with less pain involved.
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So, is the SIG paddle retention holder a "Serpa Style" holder. I think it must be since it fits the description. I have one. It was cheap and uses the trigger finger to release. I kind of thought this was a potential problem holster.
I've been shopping for a different holster but haven't settled yet.
This is an image of the one I have:
It works well but I don't relish the thought of an ND. I also don't like the IWB aspect of it. I use it on my belt.
I need to learn more about retention levels and so on. Can anyone recommend an unbiased resource?
Maybe I should come out to Abby on a Friday night Skills and Drills to observe and ask a few questions so I can come out and shoot with a decent holster. Good idea?
Thanks to the OP for the question because I have been thinking about this for a while.
Here's a good article explaining holster retention levels.
There are a few finger release designs like the Serpa. I think some Fobus designs have it also.
Any skills and drills by good instructors is worth the time and effort. It's always a friendly and informal group and gun folks are always free with sharing info....just look at CGN!
http://www.firearmstalk.com/Holster-Retention-levels-101.html
Kydex holsters will do that, pretty normal. In fact any holster will. If you don't want wear on your handgun don't use a holster. I would not expect to early a reply from Blade Tech. They may have posted your email on their coffee room notice board.
You could get our gun hard chromed.
Take Care
Bob
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OP - look up "Solely Canadian" get yourself an extremely good holster, at a very good price. The "value for dollar" on them is through the roof, they're equal in quality to the best holsters made, and they're made in Canada by a Gun Nut. Serpas are simply a bad idea, poorly executed.
I should show you my Glock 26, it has tons of wear 20 years worth.
Thanks to YOU and the other people who responded. I've learned a lot.
Thank you- I'll investigate.
Yep, your refusal to accept the facts does not make my statement close minded. There is no debate needed, it has been done and done to death by people more qualified that both of us put together and the consensus is serpas are bad. If you refuse to accept that that is your problem not mine.
Shawn
And not just Serpas are bad, so are the copies, like that SIG holster or the CZ one. Any holster that puts your trigger finger in a position like those do are bad. They are also prone to malfunction as the pivot point can get jammed easily. Stupid stupid stupid.
Wrong. I've heard back from Blade Tech requesting pics of the damage. We'll see where that leads .....
Slavex, what's an example of a retention holster with full muzzle coverage that does it right?
Pretty much any holster that does not use the trigger finger to release the retention. I use sarfariland land holsters, the ALS or ALS/SLS if you want more retention.
Shawn
Take a few minutes and hit google and see what millions of people have to say. During instruction I have had students who have had sidearms locked up in the holster with a forced reset. One had a dry fire discharge. Other students have run the holster with zero problems. It all comes down to personal affinity with the kit.
However, due to widespread media coverage of perceived deficiencies in the design, I no longer allowed them on my courses due to the potential for litigation.
-S.
However, due to widespread media coverage of perceived deficiencies in the design, I no longer allowed them on my courses due to the potential for litigation.
-S.
Also, I don't use them. When I had to carry concealed, I used fitted leather holsters such as Bianchi and a custom service holster and found Kramer Handgun Leather to be among the best.
When I started running in kydex it was issued kit purchased from Raven Concealment and have heard great things about Bravo Concealment and Solely Canadian.
Really, you've invested at least $1,000.00 in a handgun, why wouldn't you invest in a good holster as well?
-S.
When I started running in kydex it was issued kit purchased from Raven Concealment and have heard great things about Bravo Concealment and Solely Canadian.
Really, you've invested at least $1,000.00 in a handgun, why wouldn't you invest in a good holster as well?
-S.
