Thoughts on Browning Cynergy. Reliability etc
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I have the composite sporting clays with 32" barrels and have had it for 3 years now and shoot approx. 2500-3000 rounds/year through it and have had no issues with the gun other than a little discoloring on the grey inlay on the stock. I would buy this gun again but would go with the wood stock rather than the composite
I shot a club members 725 sporting,which shot well for me, but I haven't fired a 725 field. Just shouldering one, I found that the low rib didn't provide the view of the target that I was comfortable with. I actually hunt with high rib guns as well as shoot trap and skeet with them.
I have a Cynergy Euro-sporting with 30" barrels and Briley companion tube set I have had to use loctite on the forearm screws as well as the screw holding the stock stock and action together. I have run more than 50k shells through it and have no complaints other than get a tube of loctite. It is primarily used for skeet and sporting clays.
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Personally I find 26" barrels on an O/U a little bit choppy on swing on the skeet field. My 101 has 27 1/2 bbls and they are about as short as I like. I shot a friends XS Skeet at our club one day for 100 rounds. It had the 28" barrels. It was fantastic. Nice fluid swing. I mean it is all personal preference but I find 26 a bit short in an O/U. I don't have any experience with the Cynergy but a young guy I hunted with this past fall had one he got for under $100 as it was part of an insurance claim for a barn and it's contents that burned. The stocks were fine but the barrels were in bad need of bluing. I don't think the gun actually got burned, I think it got soaked by the firefighters and rusted severely by the time they took stock of the items in the barn. He said he has never had any issues with it in two years of hunting and skeet shooting with it and was quite happy with his $100 purchase. It wasn't pretty but it worked!
This is an interesting thread. I recently bought a 20ga Cynergy 26" field as my first O/U with the intention of using it for upland hunting. To sharpen up for hunting I did some trap shooting and got a bit addicted. Now I'm out every week on the trap field shooting my 20ga Cynergy, and shooting some decent scores with it. No issues whatsoever. Probably put about 1k rounds through it so far. I switched my ejectors to extractors, perfect for the trap field. I bought the Cynergy based on fit, it shouldered like it was an extension of my body. I hadn't really done my due diligence and Googled it prior to purchase. Once I started reading all the threads from the Cynergy haters, I thought I made a mistake. But if you wade through all the negativity, you'll see it is all based on the Euro styling and Inflex recoil pad "appearance". Most of the haters have never fired a Cynergy or handled one. Those that have, love them. Then there is the broad statement about resale value being low. I have yet to see this. I have been on the lookout for a used Cynergy sporting with adjustable wood... they almost never come up. When one came up it was near the cost of a new one at $3.6K. Show me one under $1500 (as another poster said) and I'll buy it.
If the Cynergy was really as bad as the early haters made it sound, you would see them in the used forums, but owners like them and are hanging onto them. Its a great gun with fantastic ergonomics, punchy ejectors, crisp triggers and the MOST comfortable top lever on any gun I've handled. I just bought a used XT trap because I didn't have the budget for a new Cynergy Sporting and got tired of waiting for a used one to show up. The XT is a very nice gun, but I still see a Cynergy Sporting in my future when the funds or the right deal come along.
If the Cynergy was really as bad as the early haters made it sound, you would see them in the used forums, but owners like them and are hanging onto them. Its a great gun with fantastic ergonomics, punchy ejectors, crisp triggers and the MOST comfortable top lever on any gun I've handled. I just bought a used XT trap because I didn't have the budget for a new Cynergy Sporting and got tired of waiting for a used one to show up. The XT is a very nice gun, but I still see a Cynergy Sporting in my future when the funds or the right deal come along.
Mark,
I have owned a cynergy and where I shoot there are quite a few around. I also work part time at a gun store and have sold quite a few. They do seem to have quite a few problems, the most common is that the fore stock needs to be tightened on a regular basis and the fore stock cracks very easy. Mine I had to tighten after every 100 rounds. Blue lock tight was not enough and I did not want to try red. Mine also had ejector problems. Often when I openend the action on unfired ammo the ejectors would snap and then spring and eject the live rounds instead of raising them. When I diassembled my sporter these same spring ejectors would spring when I was seperating the barrels form the action, once almost causing me to drop the barrels. This was also a fairly common problem with cynergy and was caused by a cross pin on the ejector rod not being fit and installed properly. When I communicated this to browning they told me that if I were to repair it would void the warranty. I did repair it and sold the gun. I know one fellow who had and early cynergy sporter who told me that he got a recall notice on his gun.I don't but he knows several who got the same recall. They were never told what the problem or fix was but they lost their guns for several months. Maybe it is the nature of some shooters, but many who tried the cynergy are no longer shooting them.
From what I see of those shooting the cynergy, the euro style is seems the most popular among sporting and skeet shooters.
I have owned a cynergy and where I shoot there are quite a few around. I also work part time at a gun store and have sold quite a few. They do seem to have quite a few problems, the most common is that the fore stock needs to be tightened on a regular basis and the fore stock cracks very easy. Mine I had to tighten after every 100 rounds. Blue lock tight was not enough and I did not want to try red. Mine also had ejector problems. Often when I openend the action on unfired ammo the ejectors would snap and then spring and eject the live rounds instead of raising them. When I diassembled my sporter these same spring ejectors would spring when I was seperating the barrels form the action, once almost causing me to drop the barrels. This was also a fairly common problem with cynergy and was caused by a cross pin on the ejector rod not being fit and installed properly. When I communicated this to browning they told me that if I were to repair it would void the warranty. I did repair it and sold the gun. I know one fellow who had and early cynergy sporter who told me that he got a recall notice on his gun.I don't but he knows several who got the same recall. They were never told what the problem or fix was but they lost their guns for several months. Maybe it is the nature of some shooters, but many who tried the cynergy are no longer shooting them.
From what I see of those shooting the cynergy, the euro style is seems the most popular among sporting and skeet shooters.
Nope! Seems common, from the first run to the most recent ones. The only ones immune to this seem to be the synthetic stocks. BTW the synthetic stocks seem to be the most frequent with fore stock loosening. Maybe these things are only noticable in guns that see a high volume of shooting like clays shooting.
Thanks for the info. Obviously you have a greater exposure at the shop to see these issues, I respect that. My previous online research didn't uncover any cracking issues, only a couple reports of loosening bolts and loctite as the answer. I didn't see any reports of cracked forearms online, and when doing a search now "Browning Cynergy Forearm Crack", I only get a few hits. Seems to be early guns and forearms were replaced free by Browning. Could it be that the cracks are being caused by users over-tightening the loose bolts? Food for thought. My Classic Field in 20ga hasn't suffered from any of these issues and it is getting quite a high volume through it on the trap field. All things considered, if I see a used sporter come up at a decent price, I'll be all over it. Thanks for the info.
I just bought one two days ago, very nice. Kind of a Citori on a diet, much smaller frame,I have not had a chance to shoot it yet , maybe this weekend
Browning has and still does replace cracked fore stock under warranty at no cost to the buyer except shipping. The problem is that you loose your gun for some time. There may be some, but I have never seen a sub gauge develope cracks in the forestock on any cynergy. I think it may be a recoil thing and more prevalent in the 12. All the negatives I know about the 12s, I would buy a sub gauge sporter in a heart beat if the deal was right
One more thought about the Cynergy, now that I have a Citori too. As much as I like the Cynergy, I am very disappointed and bothered by the fact that they used plastic along the side of the barrel set under the fore end. Citoris and Superposed have proven that when cared for, these guns will last a lifetime. When I see plastic on the Cynergy (even when assembled), it takes away from that feeling. Plus, plastic placed where it will constantly be heated and cooled just seems like a bad idea, as I imagine it will get brittle with age. Of course this is just my personal perception and I could be totally wrong, I just wont know for 25 years.
