Thoughts on pointability?

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Trying to decide on my first handgun and pretty much settled on either the Glock or the M&P 2.0 in 9mm, going to pick one and run it hard. Don't have any real experience with handguns so I'm basically starting from scratch here.

Played around with a gen 5 g17 and the m&p today, shot several mags through each. Accuracy was about the same, mags and controls felt better on the Glock, trigger and grip felt better on the mp. Prefer the look of the M&P. The Glock was definitely more broken in. Overall, really even.

But there was one thing that really stuck out at me, when I brought the Glock up it lined up square every time. The MP I had to adjust up and to the right to align the sights. I never really considered this before but now it's got me second guessing. I was leaning towards the mp before shooting them, as MP felt better in my hand but this is throwing me for a bit of a loop.
 
Have you ever had any proper instruction on shooting handguns? Before I took a class or two I found glocks to be awkward and they didn’t naturally point well for me, the M&P felt and pointed better for me. After I took a pistol fundamentals class shooting a Glock was a new experience, after learning about proper grip and trigger press etc it pointed and shot great for me. They are both nice pistols, I don’t think you’ll go wrong with either.
 
A few years ago I had the luck to try out a friend's CZ-95? and his Glock 17 the same afternoon. I liked the solid feel of the CZ and I kind of sneered to myself when first handling then shooting the Glock.
I shot the Glock much better and it seems to be a natrual pointer despite its light polymer frame.

I didn't expect this but the tighter groups were proof. But I sometimes shoot a Hammerli target pistol and the grip angles isn't really far off from the Glock 17.
 
308smk said:
Trying to decide on my first handgun and pretty much settled on either the Glock or the M&P 2.0 in 9mm, going to pick one and run it hard. Don't have any real experience with handguns so I'm basically starting from scratch here.

Played around with a gen 5 g17 and the m&p today, shot several mags through each. Accuracy was about the same, mags and controls felt better on the Glock, trigger and grip felt better on the mp. Prefer the look of the M&P. The Glock was definitely more broken in. Overall, really even.

But there was one thing that really stuck out at me, when I brought the Glock up it lined up square every time. The MP I had to adjust up and to the right to align the sights. I never really considered this before but now it's got me second guessing. I was leaning towards the mp before shooting them, as MP felt better in my hand but this is throwing me for a bit of a loop.
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Both are great guns and either will serve you well, so it will be the little things that make one stand out over the other. When I started shooting pistols I had no interest in Glocks at all, I thought they were ugly and avoided even holding one. The first time I shot one it was world changing for me, they just work for my hand. We have both the M&P and Glock in the house, really enjoy the wife's M&P but I'm a full blown Glock guy now.
Buy whatever one SHOOTS best for you, and buy the other one next :)
 
Slept on it and I woke up thinking about the glock.

Really I guess I was just looking for an excuse to be a special snowflake and not get a glock. It just plain worked for me though. Gonna go get it.
 
308smk said:
Slept on it and I woke up thinking about the glock.

Really I guess I was just looking for an excuse to be a special snowflake and not get a glock. It just plain worked for me though. Gonna go get it.
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Special snow-flakes all buy Glocks. LOL.
 
There's lots of talk about the 'right' way to hold a handgun, but after years of playing around and owning the lot, I always say go for the one that feels best in hand, and lines up without too much fuss. You start that way, and you'll save yourself a lot of cash, and skip a bit of the learning curve.

And if it's a toss up between feeling right in the hands, and natural point of aim...go with the feels. Always with the feels ;)
 
I shoot glock really well to with a thumbs forward 2 hand grip..... but hate how it feels. Trying to fire it single handed strong or weak is horrible. my finger barely fits in the trigger gard and its hopeless with gloves on.

Dont forget to try out a few fn models too!! The 509 works really well for me, great feel ect ect.
 
I prefer the Glock grip angle. Sights are always dead on from the draw. Grip angles like 1911 point way low for me.
I also love my Lugers so that's probably why I prefer the Glock grip angle
 
The grip angle on the Glock is bit different than many other popular makes (1911s, the CZs, etc), but being new to shooting, you wouldn't have gotten used to anything yet. I shoot my CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow the majority of the time, and when I shoot my glock (Rarely... lol) I tend to aim high from the draw and have to correct. Not a huge deal, but a little annoying. I also just don't really care for Glocks; the concept of a light pistol to me doesn't make sense in Canada. In places where you can carry, absolutely; a lighter pistol with low profile controls that won't get snagged on clothing is ideal. But here, where you're only shooting them at a range, a heavier gun that will absorb recoil makes more sense to me. Bigger controls that are easier to access also makes more sense if you're shooting competitions.

Lots of people do well with Glocks, but I figure it comes down more to ergonomics and fit; if someone were to make a steel frame Glock with all of the same dimensions, there's no reason why someone wouldn't shoot it better than the same polymer frame gun. There's a reason why people say that shooting a Shadow/Shadow 2 feels like cheating :)
 
I think the ergonomics win every time when comparing two pistols of quality and reliability.

I originally bought a SIG based on its individual merits, and never considered anything polymer. Then I shot a glock, and immediately bought one and sold the sig. It’s like shotguns, everyone has a different fit. Glocks aren’t for everyone, but they sure line up well for me. If you have the same easy-pointing experience I did, then I suggest you go that way too.
 
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