My 338 RUM shot 225 Accubonds at. 3225 fps with a lot of H1000 powder ! Put that wimpy 338 WM to SHAME !
RJ
Thoughts on the following cartridges? 300PRC, 338WM, 35 Whelen, 416 Rigby, 458 Win
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My 338 RUM shot 225 Accubonds at. 3225 fps with a lot of H1000 powder ! Put that wimpy 338 WM to SHAME !
RJAlthough I don't hunt big game where long shots are the norm I always thought a 340wby would be ideal. However I used a 300wm when I thought I'd need to reach out
200 yards is long range for me for big game and my 458wm sighted for 50 yards is about this 8" low at 200 using 400gr ppsn woodlighs at 2400fps. With the cross hairs right on the top of a Starbucks double shot can the bullet hits just underneath. Basically a tall boy can size. Not bad for an elephant cartridge. Not a long range option compared to flatter shooting rounds
I have no experience with the 300prc but it and the 338wm are tops for shooting longer ranges from your list
200 yards is long range for me for big game and my 458wm sighted for 50 yards is about this 8" low at 200 using 400gr ppsn woodlighs at 2400fps. With the cross hairs right on the top of a Starbucks double shot can the bullet hits just underneath. Basically a tall boy can size. Not bad for an elephant cartridge. Not a long range option compared to flatter shooting rounds
I have no experience with the 300prc but it and the 338wm are tops for shooting longer ranges from your list
Sounds like 338WM is the overall pick for longish hunting duties and the 300PRC for actual long range shooting.
Are there any other comparable cartridges that do these same things better (or cheaper?) that haven't been mentioned yet?
Are there any other comparable cartridges that do these same things better (or cheaper?) that haven't been mentioned yet?
My 338 RUM shot 225 Accubonds at. 3225 fps with a lot of H1000 powder ! Put that wimpy 338 WM to SHAME !
Sorry Jim but I think the recoil of that 338 RUM is starting to effect your reasoning.
I think everyone needs to rethink the 35 Whelen when they think it can’t perform out to 400 yards. Speer load data is pushing a 250 grain to 2800 fps and the data from Sierra has the 225 SBT doing 2900fps. The factory Hornady Superformance 200gr load does 2950 fps in my Whelen(s).
Now my real thumper is my 35 WSM (Sambar) with the Barnes 200TTSX going 3000fps out of a 20 inch barrel with a healthy does of R17. My brother used my Sambar to take his 5x5 elk at 415 yards this Fall. Complete pass through with the TTSX and dead right there with a heart shot.
For true long range then the 300 PRC for sure. Never played with one but the ballistics look excellent although in a true hunting situation the 300 win Mag will pretty much do the same and components are easy to find.
For best balance of energy on game and moderate recoil the 35 Whelen and the 9.3x62 (or 9.3x74R) are the ticket. Load up some .358 158 grain pistol bullets in your Whelen to 3000 fps and watch the coyotes explode!
Now my real thumper is my 35 WSM (Sambar) with the Barnes 200TTSX going 3000fps out of a 20 inch barrel with a healthy does of R17. My brother used my Sambar to take his 5x5 elk at 415 yards this Fall. Complete pass through with the TTSX and dead right there with a heart shot.
For true long range then the 300 PRC for sure. Never played with one but the ballistics look excellent although in a true hunting situation the 300 win Mag will pretty much do the same and components are easy to find.
For best balance of energy on game and moderate recoil the 35 Whelen and the 9.3x62 (or 9.3x74R) are the ticket. Load up some .358 158 grain pistol bullets in your Whelen to 3000 fps and watch the coyotes explode!
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Sorry Jim but I think the recoil of that 338 RUM is starting to effect your reasoning.
Well maybe and that may be So Bud BUT at 300 fps faster the 300 RUM definitely has a BIG advantage over the 338 Winny at range ! RJ
NICE ! Great Thumper too ! RJ
My Boy runs a 250 Hornady on top of a MAX Varget load for 2550 fps from his 22 “ REM M700 . RJ
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Agreed, 2800 fps is really leaning on 35 Whelen brass. I have used the 358 Norm Mag since 1970, and 2800 fps with the Speer 250 is getting quite close to max.
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From Speers site - 35 Whelen 250 gr. I SEE It just Hitting 2700 ! RJ
Weight (grains)
Ballistic Coefficient
Sectional Density
COAL Tested
Speer Part No.
35 Spitzer SP Hot- Cor®
250 0.422 0.279 3.340" 2453
START CHARGE
MAXIMUM CHARGE
Propellant
Case
Primer
Weight (grains)
Muzzle Velocity (feet/sec)
Weight (grains)
Muzzle Velocity (feet/sec)
Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR
Federal
Federal 210
60.0
2505
66.2 C
2709 FPS y
Weight (grains)
Ballistic Coefficient
Sectional Density
COAL Tested
Speer Part No.
35 Spitzer SP Hot- Cor®
250 0.422 0.279 3.340" 2453
START CHARGE
MAXIMUM CHARGE
Propellant
Case
Primer
Weight (grains)
Muzzle Velocity (feet/sec)
Weight (grains)
Muzzle Velocity (feet/sec)
Alliant Power Pro 2000-MR
Federal
Federal 210
60.0
2505
66.2 C
2709 FPS y
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Think of the 338wm as a 250gr bullet at 308 velocity. My favorite, if only one, cartridge.
The others are too much...much trendy, much recoil, much to short range.
The others are too much...much trendy, much recoil, much to short range.
This .358-375 Ruger was built on an Stainless M77 Mark II .338 WM donor, using a rechambered Mark II .350 Rem Mag barrel, it is in a B&C stock with a Leupold VX-3 3.5-10X40 B&C mounted... my current load pushes the 225 AB to 3175 fps. I have only taken it out to 500 yards, but it is a flat shooter... on game? One deer... at 40 yards... note to self... "don't do that again!"
