Thoughts on the SKS-D
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First SKS-Ds were coversions, made totally from military SKSs. Later SKS-D were manufactured by same factories with same materials and same quality as Chinese military SKSs, there's no difference at all in quality.
Enjoying my popcorn while shooting SKS-D, iron sights.
P.S. Maybe the problem is not with rifle, but with shooter?
Enjoying my popcorn while shooting SKS-D, iron sights.
P.S. Maybe the problem is not with rifle, but with shooter?
“CHINESE SKS.
Military vs. Commercial
a. Military. All 3 production classes (early, mid & late) were used by the military. Quality can range from excellent to good.
b. Commercial. SKS produced for commercial use only. It could be a standard SKS assembled from spare parts or a standard converted to a variant. Workmanship on these commercially built SKS varies. You’ll have to inspect them in person to know which ones are good and which ones are less than desireable. Quality is a mixed bag.”
You nay have a “good” civilian model but the quality of the civilian models were known to be significantly lower in many instances. And lets just put the maybe its a shooter argument to rest as I stated I have shot 2-3 moa with russian and chinese mil sks.
Military vs. Commercial
a. Military. All 3 production classes (early, mid & late) were used by the military. Quality can range from excellent to good.
b. Commercial. SKS produced for commercial use only. It could be a standard SKS assembled from spare parts or a standard converted to a variant. Workmanship on these commercially built SKS varies. You’ll have to inspect them in person to know which ones are good and which ones are less than desireable. Quality is a mixed bag.”
You nay have a “good” civilian model but the quality of the civilian models were known to be significantly lower in many instances. And lets just put the maybe its a shooter argument to rest as I stated I have shot 2-3 moa with russian and chinese mil sks.
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First SKS-Ds were coversions, made totally from military SKSs. Later SKS-D were manufactured by same factories with same materials and same quality as Chinese military SKSs, there's no difference at all in quality.
Enjoying my popcorn while shooting SKS-D, iron sights.
P.S. Maybe the problem is not with rifle, but with shooter?
Your argument doesn't make any sense. You say they are all de facto military conversion, so no difference, then you go on to say in next sentence later ones were manufactured in same factories "supposedly" to same standards.
Based varying quality of products at GM depending on time of day and sobriety levels of workers, I'd say safe to say there is a chance products kludged together from various manufacturing runs, years apart, with different quality standards and objectives, might just possibly have differences in quality and results. Especially in places with poor quality control or concern about reputation. Just saying.
I would trust military accepted sks more than commercial one just because military acceptance add more control. It doesn't change the quality of manufacturing. Comparing Chinese military and commercial SKS s and D's I don't see quality difference. With type 81 I can see, but not with skss.
In any SKS forum it is readily common knowledge that the SKS-D were made to looser tolerances, pinned barrels, inferior wood, crooked sights ect. Some may have been made well many were not. I have had the opportunity to shoot many and based off my own personal experiences they are inferior. Your mileage may vary.
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Yes the original Tula's and Izhevsk's sure look nicer, but don't forget that the D is one of the last 7.62x39 plarforms with detachable mag, that you can still legally own.
VZ's and 858's became a victim of the latest gun grab.
Type 81's and LMG's are likely next.
M+M won't shoot surplus ammo, assuming it will shoot at all.
Not much left out there and the pickings are slim.
i will have to disagree with your last sentence.
i had four and in my case it was 50/50 .
lets face it. china can build a better sks-d if only the consumers willing to pay but at the time they didnt cos the market was flooded with sks.
typical of americans to sell more sks in a saturated market, they reinvented the sks, they recreated the "D". the americans knew they couldnt sell the "D" if it was too much more than the standard sks so they said make it cheap as possible.
look at the holosun, ever thought of paying $400 and up for a red dot made in china? i couldnt believe it till i got one and loved it.
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I posted this before but what the heck I'm posting it again because there's always interest in the D version. I've owned a couple Russian Tula SKS rifles and really enjoyed them. Every time I look back I wish I would have picked up one of these D versions when I had the chance, oh well.
"Back in the last days before C-68 magazine capacity limits, in 1991 at the Le Baron's Yonge St location I looked at this rifle new in the box. I had never seen an sks before and I was going to buy it but for some reason the bayonet turned me off, what was I thinking?
From the 1991 Le Baron's catalog that I picked up when I was in their store that day:"
that price seems high to me. i recall seeing it much lower in the 90s . when the US banned sks in 1994, i believe the prices of the sks and "d" dropped significantly.
Curtton is correct. China can make cheap crap and expensive high tech, whatever the customer demand is. Most want cheap.
It gets the bad rap from resellers who order and buy cheap crap and offer it as golden goose egg to the western market.
I can't believe sometimes even $$$ store prices here when I compare them to the prices I can buy that stuff in Asia. You wouldn't believe it.
Mostly packing by the way and voila, add 80 or 90% to the price, same garbage inside.
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It gets the bad rap from resellers who order and buy cheap crap and offer it as golden goose egg to the western market.
I can't believe sometimes even $$$ store prices here when I compare them to the prices I can buy that stuff in Asia. You wouldn't believe it.
Mostly packing by the way and voila, add 80 or 90% to the price, same garbage inside.
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I think our prices back then for the D models were much cheaper because of Allan Lever. He sure did sell a crap load of SKS rifles back in the day
I'm glad that I managed to hang on to a couple really nice D models and that don't suffer the issues brought up in these threads.
The machining and finish on mine are superb and they are as accurate as I would need them to be. My only gripe is somewhat rough triggers that I've gotten used to and have been to lazy to remedy LOL I am finally getting around to putting them into decent stocks, just have to finish making them.
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ah, allan lever he was in the downtown location. i recall asking to look at inglis pistol chinese contract, he glared at me as if i knew nothing till disassembled it in front of him.
i bought my fav sks a factory 26 from the burrard location for $149. i wished i never sold it
