Thoughts on Threaded Muzzles

With mechanical rimfire barrel tuners, those such as the commonly used Harrell tuner move the tuner weight by increments of .001" at a time. That is to say, the tuner has 500 clicks or increments of movement to move the weight half-an-inch. While there often are more than one tuner setting that show some improvement in results, there is only one optimal or best setting.

Tuners that move it's moveable weight over a similar or greater distance but in fewer increments may not be able to achieve the barrel's "best" tune. In other words, if the tuner weight moves .05" or .1" per increment (click), it may not be sufficiently precise.

Shooters considering the use of a tuner should be cautioned that finding that best setting may not always be easy or straightforward. I can confirm that from my own experience using several different kinds of tuners with several different rifles.

A very experienced, serious, and respected BR shooter, who posts on many forums and does extensive testing in his own testing tunnel, offered this observation a few years ago about how difficult it can be to tune a rimfire rifle, even when using "good" ammo:

"I've never found it as easy to tune a RF rifle as most would suggest it is. Fact is, I've yet to test a rifle in my ballistic tunnel that was truly tuned even when someone brings a rifle and is convinced it's tuned."

See post #41 here https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/50-at-200.1129343/page-3#post-11089975
 
Does a very heavy barrel profile negate the need for tuning? Make it easier? Or more difficult? I’ve got a 0.920” I think 20” unthreaded barrel. I’m curious what it will do in summer temps.
 
It is just my opinion but heavy barrels and shorter barrels have a much flatter sine wave than skinny barrels which makes tuning much more appraochable. The top or bottom of the curve is ideally where you want the bullet to exit the muzzle, as its where the movement is slowed in transitioning from going up to going down or vice versa. Temporarily not in movement in theory. Im sure the Overlord will have an opinion that disagrees with mine. Mine are from both clamp on tuners and threaded tuners. I have an open mind and realize technology is ever evolving hence the shrinking of group sizes in the record books. Not all tuners are operated on clicks and many have index marks but are infinitely adjustable.
 
Im sure the Overlord will have an opinion that disagrees with mine.

Longstud, your reference "Overlord" sounds pejorative and you may intend it that way. It sounds like you're talking about a crime boss or a feudal ruler. It's unseemly and uncalled for. Equally, no one here should make a reference regarding the name under which you post, even if it strikes as boastful or suggestive.

In any case, with regard to the opinion you've offered, no one should criticize it because it's your opinion. It may, however, remain subject to revision with better information.

Edit to add: I don't wish to continue any discussion of this nature. If you don't want to see what I post, please put me on your ignore list. I sincerely hope this is the end of your animosity.

Does a very heavy barrel profile negate the need for tuning? Make it easier? Or more difficult? I’ve got a 0.920” I think 20” unthreaded barrel. I’m curious what it will do in summer temps.

Heavy barrels are less sensitive to barrel harmonics, which is to simply say they will "vibrate" less than a slimmer one. In addition, the shorter a barrel is the less sensitive it is to barrel harmonics. As a result, it may be very difficult to tune a heavy barrel that is short.

Serious and competitive rimfire benchrest shooters typically use tuners. Their rifle barrels are in the range of 24 - 26 inches in length. The diameter is around .900", give or take a little. Rimfire barrel blanks are usually about 28" long. When a gunsmith is going to install a barrel on an action for BR shooting, he will usually slug the barrel blank to determine which end should be the muzzle and where to cut it.

Although heavy barrels are less responsive to tuning, that doesn't mean they can't take advantage of a tuner. It may mean that a tuner may have to be configured differently from a tuner that works well on a slimmer barrel.

For some further reading on barrel harmonics, see http://www.stocks-rifle.com/harmonics.htm and http://www.stocks-rifle.com/barrel-movement.htm
 
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