That is what I meant about the mitigating circumstances.....they probably have been watching him for a while, or have had complaints about them. For somebody to make an honest mistake, it would be steep!
Three People in Norfolk, Ontario Fined. Deer Hunters.
- Thread starter Winchested
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That is what I meant about the mitigating circumstances.....they probably have been watching him for a while, or have had complaints about them. For somebody to make an honest mistake, it would be steep!
- Location
- WMU248 near Edmonton
I don't tag em till I get them dragged out to a cutline or loaded up on a quad.
I had a CO stop and check me out while I was gutting a deer, we chatted while I worked and he didn't say anything about tags. He only wanted to see the tag once I go the deer on the quad and had cleaned my hands with a bit of snow. but by then we needed a flash light to read the tags and pick out the correct one.
these guys sound like they were not near where they shot the deer (3 deer all transported together and not tagged) and they managed to talk themselves into a fine.
I had a CO stop and check me out while I was gutting a deer, we chatted while I worked and he didn't say anything about tags. He only wanted to see the tag once I go the deer on the quad and had cleaned my hands with a bit of snow. but by then we needed a flash light to read the tags and pick out the correct one.
these guys sound like they were not near where they shot the deer (3 deer all transported together and not tagged) and they managed to talk themselves into a fine.
I don't know. At this MNR web page, they sure pile on the fines for violations:
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/Enforcement/2ColumnSubPage/STEL02_164545.html
No question, there is more to this story than first appears.
As for the tag, it got caught during the drag and ripped completely off. Not sure when it happened, we did eventually find it mashed into the dirt.
Don't forget as well that validation tags on adult moose are simply a sticker that is placed on the license, this could easily come off with the license remaining. I just think there could be a better way,
Patrick
17.5 through 17.10I would like to see set fines for hunting violations. And its the crown that sets the fine on the CO's advice, don't ask how I know this
http://www.ontariocourts.on.ca/ocj/en/setfines/one/index.htm
I never knew there were so many specific violations...WOW!
I've never had a moose tag, are they the same as deer tags?
In Sask, we get three seals per "tag". One for the head, one for the hide and one for the body. Not sure how that works if you have to 1/4 and carry a deer out (hope I never have to find out either
).Wow, you are right! Some are pretty steep!
A CO asked me to see my hunting licence when I was in a logging landing 3 metres away from my bicycle with my wallet in my daypack in the carrier.
He gave me heck for not having my wallet on my person because by law I had to be prepared to cancel my tag immediately upon killing the game animal.
I understand why now, so I carry my wallet.
He gave me heck for not having my wallet on my person because by law I had to be prepared to cancel my tag immediately upon killing the game animal.
I understand why now, so I carry my wallet.
I guess your mud is muddier and your sticks stickier, and your snow....you get the point. Never had a problem with tags. And if you think your sad tale of inferior tags is worth spit in any court you can forget that too.
Ever lie to a CO?? Check that one out.
And I WANT the MNR issuing LOTS of violations to deserving axxwipes like these !
Joe_Singer
Regular
- Location
- Princeton, Ont
I dont know if they were being watched as they were caught driving the ATV down Turkey Point Road off in the ditch. That is the main area for the hunters who hunt the crown land park. Just about everyday during the shot gun hunt the CO's drive up and down the road there.
This past season I even seen one of the groups pushing the bush towards the road where one man was sitting on a pail with shotgun in hand on the shoulder of the road.
People like this scare me and I see why hunters get a bad rap. I think the more people get fined the more people will think about what they are doing.
I think any honest hunters and the show effort with obeying the rules will not be bothered.
tactical870
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Buckhorn, Ontario
Yep. Not quite sure why some people here seem to defend them.....
A few years back we hunted next to a group who shot two moose well off the beaten path. They taged both at the kill sight. By the time the moose were taken out to the road where they had truck access(a whole day) the tags were in very rough shape. When checked at camp two young C.Os charged them for re-using their tags(they did not).
They were in the peocess of seizing both moose, guns, ATVs, and one truck,and these hunters where getting pretty ugly,The two CO.s called back up. Luckily a seasoned CO came, and showed common sense, and reversed all charges when he realized where infact the moose had been shot.That, asking two guys from our group who helped retrieve the moose where the other COs did not. If another CO had not been available things could have went down, a whole lot different, and unfairly so!
Not defending them!
There has to be more to this story. The people in question must have been known/wanted by the COs for a while, or had past charges. If this is the case $4650 wasn't high enough. If first timmers, too steep, and $1000 would have sufficed!
Without knowing the whole story it's hard to have an opinion either way.
They were in the peocess of seizing both moose, guns, ATVs, and one truck,and these hunters where getting pretty ugly,The two CO.s called back up. Luckily a seasoned CO came, and showed common sense, and reversed all charges when he realized where infact the moose had been shot.That, asking two guys from our group who helped retrieve the moose where the other COs did not. If another CO had not been available things could have went down, a whole lot different, and unfairly so!
Not defending them!
There has to be more to this story. The people in question must have been known/wanted by the COs for a while, or had past charges. If this is the case $4650 wasn't high enough. If first timmers, too steep, and $1000 would have sufficed!
Without knowing the whole story it's hard to have an opinion either way.
