Thureon Defence court case?

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https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/us-man-admits-shipping-guns-to-australia-20190701-p522ts.html

US man admits to shipping guns to Australia

July 1, 2019 — 5.25am

The Journal Sentinel reports that Wisconsin man Andy Huebschmann, of New Holstein, admitted in federal court to sending the Australian dealer pistols, rifles and rifle parts to convert semi-automatic guns into fully automatic weapons.

Huebschmann owns Germantown-based Thureon Defence and is licensed to manufacture and deal guns.

He allegedly met Victorian Paul Munro at a Las Vegas gun trade show about seven years ago, and Munro persuaded him to ship him Thureon guns. Huebschmann didn't have export licences for the shipments.

Huebschmann faces up to 20 years in prison.

Munro, 65, was originally ordered to serve at least six years behind bars for importing a dozen Thureon machine guns, capable of firing 1000 rounds a minute.

But on May 14, the Victorian Court of Appeal revealed it had increased his non-parole period to 11 years.

The maximum 10-year sentence handed down by the County Court last May was also increased to 15 years after the appeal by prosecutors.

Munro pleaded guilty to four weapon-importing charges and two attempted importing charges.

He successfully imported a dozen of the Thureon machine guns and had tried to import another six despite knowing police in Melbourne had seized guns three times between April 2014 and January 2016.

Munro arranged false-bottom crates to hide the import.

The judges said Munro's offending demanded a substantially higher sentence than the one originally imposed.

Prosecutors had argued the sentence was manifestly inadequate, given the maximum available was 60 years.

They described the guns imported by Munro as "mass killing machines" that had the ongoing capacity to kill people in great numbers.

AP

 

[bananarama]

sounds like a plot for a movie

 

[F22_RaptoR]

I mean, for a dozen or 20 guns... why risk the damn jail time for ITAR violations? They are already set up to export to Canada so obviously they have some idea on how to handle exports....

For 1000 bucks US a pop, they can't be making more than 2-300 bucks profit on them, so 4 grand for 20 years in prison??? This makes no sense at all....

 

[Armedsask]

I'm guessing he was charging a premium for the illegal ones?

If so, there has to be a cheaper way to get illegal guns into Australia. Especially something better than a Thureon brick. A junk AK is one hundred times better.

 

[Maple57]

Over 20 years as a retail business owner I found this to be true. Not that I came up with it... I read a study on this somewhere along the line.

The bulk of the population are 'mostly' honest.
A percentage will steal if they have an opportunity and think they will get away with it.

There's also a small percentage of people who will commit a crime even if they think they will likely get caught. Sounds like this guy was in this third group.

 

[tobin]

I think Stag got into trouble for selling full auto guns some years ago?

 

[B]

Andy has not been a part of Thureon for many years.

 

[airbatic]

I think Stag got into trouble for selling full auto guns some years ago?

I think they were licensed to make them but were not complying with the record keeping on serial numbers or complying with the agreed process? I do remember they were shut down briefly and think they changed ownership as the boss took the responsibility for it