Tick and Lyme Disease Awareness

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Hey Guys;

Many areas in Canada, like Ontario, are endemic for ticks and Lyme Disease. About 1/3 of ticks carry it. Here's the link to the Ontario Lyme Risk Map 2020, and keep in mind that ticks can be anywhere because ticks are transported by migratory birds.

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https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/l/2020/lyme-disease-risk-area-map-2020.pdf

With tick bites, most never know they were bit. A tick that fits inside the zero on one of our dimes can transmit Lyme Disease and other bacterial co-infections.

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Don't let anyone tell you that the tick has to be attached a certain amount of time, that's simply not true, a bite IS A BITE!!! It's also important to know that not everyone develops the bullseye rash.

If you have flu like symptoms, chronic fatigue, malaise, muscle/joint pain, memory fog, cognitive issues etc., get to the Doctor for antibiotics and don't let them dismiss you because you didn't see a tick bite OR get the rash. Health Canada and Public Health Ontario agree, Lyme disease is mainly diagnosed through clinical symptoms and a history of exposure to ticks.

Here are links those documents:

https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/h...s/pdf/medeff/bulletin/carn-bcei_v22n4-eng.pdf

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/...6/lyme-disease-prevention-technical.pdf?la=en

Early on, Lyme Disease can be treated with antibiotics. Left undiagnosed, Lyme Disease will attack the heart, brain, joints, connective tissue, muscles, digestive system, skin, eyesight, hearing etc and because it mimics other diseases, prolonged misdiagnosis by Canada's Lyme-Illiterate Doctors is extremely common.

Chronic Lyme, which is defined as 5 weeks post infection, is another story. That outcome depends on how long you had it, and how your body reacts to long term antibiotic treatment. Furthermore, Chronic Lyme Disease can permanently disable and worse, it can kill. See the story about Gabe Magnotta, co-founder of Magnotta Winery and a hunting & hunting dog enthusiast who died after a 7 year battle with it.

Here's that link:
https://www.gmagnottafoundation.com/about

Now, back to 'getting to the doctor'. They will run what is called an Elisa C6 test that is so unreliable and riddled with false negatives, most patients are misdiagnosed for months or years and bounced from 'specialist' to 'specialist'. But, 'if' the Elisa C6 happens to come back positive, they will then run a Western Blot, and 'if' all the markers are hit in the Western Blot, they will diagnose you with Lyme Disease and treat.

Here's a copy of a peer reviewed document showing that the Elisa C6 test is only 48.6% sensitive, meaning 51.4% of Lyme positive cases are missed.

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Now, if you've stuck with me this far, and you and hopefully your Doctor still suspect Lyme Disease, just pay out of pocket and GET TESTED by either Igenex in California OR Armin Labs in Germany. Both are CLIA accredited labs, they have to be as they are handling human samples/testing, and equivalent to our Canadian labs.

One note on Specialist(s). If your Doctor says that Lyme Disease is beyond the scope of their practise, warning bells should be going off in your head! This tells you that it is no longer about you, your Doctor is legally trying to meet their 'standard of care' by referring you on to a 'specialist'. You must then demand that the specialist they refer you to is both Lyme Literate AND ILADS trained. Do NOT accept anything else as most Canadian doctors, specialists included, are Lyme-Illiterate. Most will look at your negative C6 Elisa, glance at your positive serology from either Igenex or Armin, say that they don't recognize laboratory results from outside our jurisdiction AND send you on your way saying your symptoms could be anything.

I believe a monumental change is coming wrt acceptable testing and Lyme Disease because of a court case currently underway in the USA, "Torrey VS IDSA". ***Note: Private insurance companies have already settled out of court... That tells you something!

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Private CLIA accredited labs like Igenex and Armin are leading the way with tests that are much more sensitive than the antiquated and inaccurate Elisa C6 which Canadian Dr's point to in order to dismiss Lyme Disease as the cause for a patients suite of symptoms. Once Torrey VS IDSA is settled, testing standards will be updated in both the USA and Canada. Only then will doctors who dismissed their patients symptoms of Lyme Disease, realize their standard of care was lacking for patients.

In the meantime, tick awareness and prevention is key. Use permethrin and ensure that your dog is on something like NexGard Spectra that kills ticks.

Cheers
Jay
P.S. Anyone that knows they've been bit by a tick should demand a course of antibiotics. Why? Because the same flawed methodology used to diagnose Lyme Disease in Canada, is what they use to test the tick... And the majority of ticks tested will come back with a false negative. Just GET the antibiotics!

Now here's a test to see if you are paying attention. The patient below is presenting with Lyme symptoms, and the Doctor is saying let's run an Elisa C6 test... What's wrong with this scenario? (Answers below picture.)

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First, the Doctor should be diagnosing clinically as per Health Canada AND Public Health Ontario recommendations.

Second, the C6 Elisa test is known to be tremendously flawed and its poor sensitivity means most cases of Lyme are missed.

Third, any patient suspecting they have lyme needs to be aware that it is no longer about you when their primary care physician says lyme disease is beyond the scope of their practice &/or they are referring you on to another MD. This is about their legal obligations wrt standard of care, and they are covering their a$$. You must then demand that whoever they send you to be both Lyme Literate & ILADS trained to prevent being ping-ponged from specialist to specialist.
 

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Thanks for posting this.
Some doctors are more proactive than others about this. I had a tick embedded in me last year and sent it off to be tested. I went to see my doctor about it and he said that it takes the health unit so long to test them that the best treatment which as you said is a dose of antibiotics would not be effective by the time the results were in. He treated me right away as a precaution.
 
As a Lyme disease survivor, I can certainly attest that everything Jay states about a tick bite and Lyme disease is factual.

It’s been close to 4 years now for me and I guess I’m pretty lucky as I’m only left with weaker than normal wrist muscles. It started out as a sore neck and later progressed to an extremely sore neck, and slowly went to the upper arms, forearms, wrists, and fingers. Very painful and next to no use from my hands.

Yep, my first testing was negative and the doctors wouldn’t send me for more testing as they heard it was very inaccurate. They also didn’t think I had Lyme disease and weren’t too happy with me bringing in data that I downloaded from the Mayo Clinic and the Ontario government health site. I had to get a little nasty with them to listen. My family doctor had retired and I was at the mercy of a local clinic. I finally ran into a younger female doctor there who believed my self diagnosed story and put me on antibiotics.

I spray my hunting clothes now with Permetherin (spelling?) and haven’t had a tick on me since. The tick bite that got me was in the spring during our maple syrup operation.
 
Thanks for posting this Jay, Lyme disease is something that I'm always conscious of when outdoors. Its amazing how something that is seemingly so insignificant as a tick bite can have such serious results.
 
Any insight into the type and length of antibiotics cycle you should go on, if you suspect a bite?
A few guys at work have had their lives ruined from this. Nothing but a fight with the company, union and wsib.
 
Great post Jay: thanks for sharing!

No worries, just trying to raise awareness! :rockOn:

Any insight into the type and length of antibiotics cycle you should go on, if you suspect a bite?
A few guys at work have had their lives ruined from this. Nothing but a fight with the company, union and wsib.

My understanding is:

If caught early, inside 5 weeks post bite/symptoms, 30 days of antibiotics...

If it's Chronic Lyme, well that's another rodeo all together... And 90 days or longer may be required... Treatment may also not have the desired outcome...

Cheers
Jay
 
Thanks for this. I’m in Thunder Bay. The last few years I couldn’t walk onto the grass on my property without being covered in ticks... would find them in the garage... in the clean laundry even.
 
I spray my hunting clothes now with Permetherin (spelling?) and haven’t had a tick on me since. The tick bite that got me was in the spring during our maple syrup operation.

What permethrin based product do you use to spray your clothing with?

Unless things have changed we can't get any of the good stuff produced to treat clothing up here (Sawyer). Legal to use I guess but not legal to buy. Which is pretty dumb as one could just buy a few cans of Raid or Orkin that only contains permethrin and douse their clothes with that. Or if one is a farmer mix up a light batch of Pounce maybe lol
 
What permethrin based product do you use to spray your clothing with?

Unless things have changed we can't get any of the good stuff produced to treat clothing up here (Sawyer). Legal to use I guess but not legal to buy. Which is pretty dumb as one could just buy a few cans of Raid or Orkin that only contains permethrin and douse their clothes with that. Or if one is a farmer mix up a light batch of Pounce maybe lol

Bought mine in the US and had it shipped to my US border Kinik postal address (before the border was closed).

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No worries, just trying to raise awareness! :rockOn:



My understanding is:

If caught early, inside 5 weeks post bite/symptoms, 30 days of antibiotics...

If it's Chronic Lyme, well that's another rodeo all together... And 90 days or longer may be required... Treatment may also not have the desired outcome...

Cheers
Jay
Well done..good info props for sharing
 
Thanks Jay for the great information. First I've heard that the 24hr thing is incorrect. Is it still fact that it's only black legged ticks that are transmitting lyme? We have lots of dog ticks but I've never been as concerned about them. Still hate the things but figured based on my reading that they are less of a risk.

I've been showering with flea/tick dog shampoo after coming in from bush. Not sure how effective that is, but figure it might get some of the little ones that I can't see in my hair, which I have a lot of.
 
My partner didn't get diagnosed for almost 10 years.... she's doing pretty well now but get's flare ups and needs to manage her stress.
They tried to give her antibiotics for a month but after so many years she would have probably needed a year on antibiotics! She did take Teasel Root which was an alternative remedy and that seemed to help, but mostly she has learned to live with it and try and limit stress.
 
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