Ticks.....

I just can't understand people only getting one or two ticks.

When I tramp around the lake of the woods in the spring you can literally brush them off your clothes like they were sawdust.

Then spend the rest of the night picking.

Then spend the rest of the month with "Tick-itis" - causes you to drop your pants anytime two leg hairs next to each other move.

The rules: pull your socks over your pant legs and tuck your shirt into your waist band. At least they have to crawl north to get to skin. Wear light colour clothes for easier detection. Completely strip once you're done in the woods and before you enter habitation. Completely turn out every little crease - pockets, collars etc - before storing clothes in some sort of sealable container. Have intimate friend check all nooks and cranies and hair. Use same set of clothes for bush, and a different set of clothes for home. Animals stay outside.

If you have dogs, get familiar with pulling them out of eye lids, gums, genitals and the back door.
 
Still not many in AB. Southern MB has had them as long as I can remember. I like the stuff you put on clothes, but what do they have that will work on dogs? - dan


I checked with numerous dog kennels and dog clubs , they all recommend the 2 products I mentioned in earlier post! since it is made for horses and horses have fur it works not only on the furry things but on the clothes as well , I went out today , and tried it out in the most tick infested area around my home , and i could see them crawl up on shoes and drop as they hit the pants. I left the shoes untreated and treated everything else, got home and check the dogs ..... nothing !!! works great , oh and btw , I'll never do that again , even now that I know it works, the things still creep me out. But the main thing is the horse gard and kentucky fly shield , both work as promised :)
 
During field courses in Cranbrook and Grand Forks (ESPECIALLY Grand Forks :runaway:) we dealt with ticks on a regular basis.

Not so bad that you could brush them off after only a few minutes, but pretty bad (perhaps 20+ per hour per person).

At that rate, I much preferred shorts to long pants. I could feel the bastards crawling on my legs. I preferred the early intervention to feeling them crawling behind my ear :eek:. We left all our gear outside if there was any doubt, and our vigilance paid off. Ours was one of the few tick-free motel rooms. The mornings were always funny, as you'd hear the stories of the other rooms. Waking up finding tonnes of them all over the walls, on clothes, on packs, on sacks (yeah, THAT one :eek: apparantly the guy screamed like a girl when he found it, and quite frankly I wouldn't blame him).

Here in Alberta, my brother brought one home 2 weeks ago from Kananaskis. That was the ONLY tick I have ever seen in my 25 years in Alberta.
 
Grand Forks BC boundary??.

During field courses in Cranbrook and Grand Forks (ESPECIALLY Grand Forks :runaway:) we dealt with ticks on a regular basis.

Not so bad that you could brush them off after only a few minutes, but pretty bad (perhaps 20+ per hour per person).

At that rate, I much preferred shorts to long pants. I could feel the bastards crawling on my legs. I preferred the early intervention to feeling them crawling behind my ear :eek:. We left all our gear outside if there was any doubt, and our vigilance paid off. Ours was one of the few tick-free motel rooms. The mornings were always funny, as you'd hear the stories of the other rooms. Waking up finding tonnes of them all over the walls, on clothes, on packs, on sacks (yeah, THAT one :eek: apparantly the guy screamed like a girl when he found it, and quite frankly I wouldn't blame him).

Here in Alberta, my brother brought one home 2 weeks ago from Kananaskis. That was the ONLY tick I have ever seen in my 25 years in Alberta.
 
I checked with numerous dog kennels and dog clubs , they all recommend the 2 products I mentioned in earlier post! since it is made for horses and horses have fur it works not only on the furry things but on the clothes as well , I went out today , and tried it out in the most tick infested area around my home , and i could see them crawl up on shoes and drop as they hit the pants. I left the shoes untreated and treated everything else, got home and check the dogs ..... nothing !!! works great , oh and btw , I'll never do that again , even now that I know it works, the things still creep me out. But the main thing is the horse gard and kentucky fly shield , both work as promised :)

Thanks. I'll pick some up for my next MB trip. - dan
 
I know for horses that the "oil based" fly-spray is much more effective than the "water based" version.
I don't know how they affect clothing though (damage).
 
All this tick talk creeps me out. :runaway:

I've never even seen a tick in the woods, and no one I know has had one until last year when my buddies daughter got one on her. I guess we are not plagued with them here, but all this talk of ticks will make me more careful next time I hit the woods.

How come you never hear of tick problems in campsites????
 
here in stoon sask there are plenty now. I never seen one till about 9 yrs ago, now our bushes are full of them. My dog gets lots so i buy some drops and they pretty much stay off him now or die.
 
She suffers everydays still~ She has at least 2 seizures a day and is still wheelchair bound right now due to not having any energy and her joints are affected greatly~ I talked to her lastnight and she says she feels better but she's had this since 2004 and had gone undiagnosed until 2008. Up until then the doctors thought she was suffering from MS. She went thru 2 pregnancies while having Lyme~ Both her sons have suffered the effects of the disease but are getting treatment to stop the ongoing effects. Due to the length of time it took doctors to figure out what was wrong with Charity she will most likely have this for the rest of her life~
 
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OMG...that is so sad. Poor girl. :(

Please give us updates on her condition...Her story might have saved alot of outdoorsman from CGN
who will now be vigilant in exercising caution against ticks.

Thank her for me if you would. :)
 
She gave me permission to post this as she knows I deal with a lot of hunters~ I will keep you guys updated on her condition~ I have downloaded the WHOLE video now~I know its long but it really hits home.
 
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I go to a lot of shoots in New England: CT, RI, NH and NY. There is plenty of them there. I shot with a famous vet from NH at the Ruger Cup in RI, two weeks ago. We ending up talking about ticks as one landed on my hand. My dogs have started to get them on the island of Montreal! SO we discussed the best prevention and the best method for removal. The bst prevention for dogs is Advantick (or close to that name). It is a once a month viale that one breaks over the neck of the dog. It has no side effects. There is a newer product that has left some doga with side effects.

As for removel, I tried the soap and baby oil routine. According to the vet and my experience this year, rubbing alcohol works best! Wet, really wet a cotton ball and soak the tick. In no time they come out and die. Last week, I killed 5 on my Dhrathaar using the alcohol treatment. Tomorrow, I finally bring him to the vet for his shots and Adventick.

Regards,
Henry;)
 
She suffers everydays still~ She has at least 2 seizures a day and is still wheelchair bound right now due to not having any energy and her joints are affected greatly~ I talked to her lastnight and she says she feels better but she's had this since 2004 and had gone undiagnosed until 2008. Up until then the doctors thought she was suffering from MS. She went thru 2 pregnancies while having Lyme~ Both her sons have suffered the effects of the disease but are getting treatment to stop the ongoing effects. Due to the length of time it took doctors to figure out what was wrong with Charity she will most likely have this for the rest of her life~

I am truly sorry to hear about her, and hope that she gets better over time. Outsanding video, a MUST SEE for anyone that doubts that Lyme is "just a tick bite"


In Ontario it is STILL more common that Lyme is diagnosed as MS. As I mentioned earlier, a longtime friend of my wife is in a wheelchair also because of Lyme.

And it was my wife that suggested that she be checked out for Lyme because her doctors didn't diagnose it correctly for 10 years. Unfortunately it is probably too late for her to recover.

I have mentioned this before, that anyone who spends time in the bush, and ends up with joint pains, neurological problems, or even diagnosed as MS, get checked for Lyme. Unfortunately that is much easier said than done.


DIAGNOSIS
The ONLY reliable test is a PCR (DNA type test) that is only done in one lab in the US (www.igenix.com as shown in the video). It will cost you about $500. You can arrange it with your doctor and it is all done by Fed-Ex to the US lab.

How bad is the diagnosis problem? Ontario has the LOWEST diagnosed rate of Lyme but the HIGHEST rate of MS. MANY of those cases of MS are actually misdiagnosed Lyme and they are just starting to become known.

There is HUGE ignorance on the part of doctors about Lyme, MOST don't believe in it, and MOST diagnose it as something else. And even when they do prescribe a treatment, it is usually completely useless because it is way too short a term. (4 or 5 weeks)

EXAMPLE
For example, if you have joint pain, your doctor sends you to a rheumatologist (arthritis specialist) and what will he say? You guessed it, you have some form of arthritis. When you have tingling in your feet, you are sent to to a neurologist, obviously it is a neurological problem. Your mind gets cloudy, and you can't think as clearly as you once did, well that is just old age. And so on.

The above example is TRUE, it is my father-in-law (a geologist). He went through a dozen doctors over 5 years before my WIFE figured out it was Lyme. His tests in Ontario for Lyme came back NEGATIVE on several occasions. He then sent in samples for the PCR test and they came back POSITIVE. He has been on treatment for about 2-3 YEARS, including IV antibiotics. Only after being on treatment for a year or so did one of his Ontario tests come back positive.

His joint pain as subsided, still has some tingling in his feet, but most importantly his mind is now clear.

LYME BACTERIA LIFECYCLES
The problem with Lyme is that the bacteria that causes has about a one month lifecycle where activity, and symptoms increase and decrease. This is also the basis of the past "treatment" of 4 to 5 weeks of antibiotics.

What happens it that the bacteria activity decreases on a monthly basis, and symptoms decrease substantially, only to reoccur a couple weeks later.

My wife and daughter accurately charted their symptoms for at least a year and there was a DEFINITE monthly pattern to the symptoms. This was before, during and even after 9+ months of treatment. (treatment might have been longer, I don't remember) The treatment was stopped based on the chronicle of symptoms, not because of the Ontario blood test, which only once returned a positive result. The medical texts also recommend Lyme diagnosis based on symptoms, and not the test, but society (doctors) have become so dependant on tests, that if you constantly return negative tests, the conclusion is that obviously can't be anything wrong with you. :rolleyes:

Things are changing, but VERY slowly. Your best defence is your own knowledge of the situation.

BTW the is only ONE doctor in Ontario that specializes in Lyme Disease. He is being closely "watched" by the Ontario Medical Association because he is prescribing treatment way in excess of the "recommended" 4-5 weeks period of antibiotics. In the eyes of the OMA, his treatments are bordering on malpractice. But he is throughly documenting his results and he is GETTING results, along with a growing body of evidence from the US and other places.
 
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