Tikka economy rifles?

[manbearpig]

I don't have to pull the bolt back to china to chamber a round.

neither do i on my short-action rifles, which are actually short-actions and not long-actions with bolt stops that defeat the entire purpose of owning a short-action.
the irony of complaining about a fraction of an inch longer long action when all short-action T3s use a long-action length...

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[reddarb]

These threads always seem to turn into the same thing. The same deal as Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge vs. Toyota vs. Nissan. To each their own. Everyone will defend what they already own and love, and there is nothing wrong with that. I just traded away a savage .300 win mag, and the only reason why I traded it is because I didnt use it. For the price it was a tack driver. I have a Tikka .243 on order right now and am still waiting for it. It is going to be my coyote gun, and as long as it helps me stone 'em dead then I am happy.

 

[prosper]

Just don't fall into the trap of thinking 'it's more betterer because it costs more.' Easier said than done, but it's true of so very much out there - often times the less expensive gear performs just as well or better than the more expensive stuff. And again, it really depends on what you personally value more. For example, a 'tinkerer' won't give a damn about 'out of the box' performance, so long as there's huge potential to be realized with the application of some time and DIY modifications.

 

[Covey Ridge]

ill be glad to take all those lousy Accutriggers off the hands of those of you who say they are lousy.

Folks, you might as well send those accutrigger to manbearpig. I do not think that they will fit on a Stevens or any savage that was not originally built with the accutrigger? manbearpig will probably need them as spares

 

[the_big_mike]

neither do i on my short-action rifles, which are actually short-actions and not long-actions with bolt stops that defeat the entire purpose of owning a short-action.
the irony of complaining about a fraction of an inch longer long action when all short-action T3s use a long-action length...

Okay you are either deliberately missing my point or just do not plain get it.

First off who mentioned SA cartridges? I'm talking about a 30-06 and .270 here.

Secondly!!!

What I was saying.. that the LA cartridges on the savage, the bolt was REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY LONG. So long, that the only bases that gave the best fit had to hang over top the action by a little more then half a center meter.

The bolt was not as smooth, upwards pressure on the bolt or jiggling the bolt made it more difficult to #### however not as bad as the remmys.

The Tikka action IS better... stop deluding yourself.

with that being said I would buy savage again... but would prefer the better action & trigger of the tikka.

 

[manbearpig]

First off who mentioned SA cartridges? I'm talking about a 30-06 and .270 here.

I did, because its absolutely relevant. youre #####ing about a Savage action being a fraction of an inch longer in long action, whereas all bloody T3 short-actions arent even short-action.
a five year old could see the irony there.

The bolt was not as smooth, upwards pressure on the bolt or jiggling the bolt made it more difficult to #### however not as bad as the remmys.

The Tikka action IS better... stop deluding yourself.

you managed to bind a bolt with a free-floating bolt head by slightly jiggling it? ok, im calling BS on that as well. if youre binding Savage/Stevens bolts its time to learn how to use a bolt action
oh, and while were at it - the floating bolt head also potentially improves accuracy by creating a self-truing action virtually eliminating the need for expensive action blueprinting.

yeah, its a cost-saving feature as well but actually a clever one that both saves manufacturing costs and creates a better/more accurate action. imagine that? unlike all the manufacturing cost-saving 'features' on a Tikka that basically result in a crappier action for the end-user.

i wish you guys would just petition for a Tikka T3 sub-forum, where you guys could talk all day about the beauty of the T3 and how it changed your lives.

 

[Covey Ridge]

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i wish you guys would just petition for a Tikka T3 sub-forum, where you guys could talk all day about the beauty of the T3 and how it changed your lives

If manbearpig does not like talk about the t-3, I wonder why he posts or trolls every t-3 thread every started? Seems that the cure to his problem would be simply to not read instead of designating a special forum to stuff that he does not like.

 

[mylesrom]

How about "Manbearpig's, I hate the Tikka T3" forum...

 

[manbearpig]

refine that to:

"Manbearpig's I hate people who act like the T3 is God's gift to firearms, rather than an economy rifle" forum, and weve got a deal.

 

[mylesrom]

That title is too long. How about "Manbearpig's T3's Suck" forum.

 

[manbearpig]

dont put words in my mouth. i never said they suck, just that they are an 'overpriced economy rifle'. we're really back to this all over again?

 

[mylesrom]

I guess so, because everyone of your posts wines about Tikka's......

 

[pharaoh2]

I used to ##### about the Tikka rifle too. I admited as long as I haven't tried one, I shouldn't whine too much, minus for the sake of fun. Guess what, I bought one. I'm allowed to complain about them, but I won't. The T3 has alot of things I don't like, but it has alot I do. Just like the Winchester, Browning, Ruger, Sako, etc.

Has owning this rifle changed my life? No. But, I will go as far to say this is as close to the perfect hunting rifle as I have ever owned. Practicality over asthetics should be priority in a hunting rifle. The key word here is hunting rifle. I have carried heavy rifles all over. I have owned beautifully wood stocked rifles. I have hunted in rain and snow, and in wind and extreme cold. A beautiful walnut stock isn't required. I have also dropped rifles, dunked shotguns in mud and used both to hold me upright in not so pretty spots.

Why would I call it the perfect hunting rifle? It's just my opinion of course, and were all entitled to one of those. But I think this rifle has somthing to offer anybody who will give it a chance. The rifle first and foremost is now reasonably priced. Anyone interested in buying a new rifle should consider it an option. Your budget minded guy (me) can afford to own at least one of these. The synthetic stocks are very durable. It will withstand any abuse I'm likey to throw at it. And it will be abused. The stock dimensions are not standard. I own other rifles, and this one just feels good to shoulder. The overall weight is quite light and will surely make it easy to carry. While I'm not a fan of detachable magazines, especially plastic ones, this one will do the job. For those who's idea of a deer stand is a pick up truck, there is no excuse for not unloading your rifle. Safety first. Dollar for dollar, I will admit this is quite a good value right now. And for any individuals who are going to troll around and complain about it, get out and try one. If you don't like it, sell it. But I'm looking foward to using this rifle this Fall. It's everything I need to do the job it was designed for. Sitting at a computer isn't it.

 

[mylesrom]

I agree try before you ##### and complain. If its not your thing, sell it....

 

[manbearpig]

ok, you win.

i recant everything. the T3 is the greatest design in firearms since the Garand.
my apologies to mylesrom, the_big_mike, blargon, and yes even Covey for blaspheming against the T3 - it is truly a magnificent weapon.

can we drop this now? i promise i simply wont click on any more 'the T3 is so great' threads and leave you guys to your thing.

 

[gitrdun]

Oh...you chickenbearpig you, stand up like a man a fight for what you believe. The T3 is a POS....

 

[todbartell]

they're way better than Abolts though

 

[blargon]

ok, you win.

i recant everything. the T3 is the greatest design in firearms since the Garand.
my apologies to mylesrom, the_big_mike, blargon, and yes even Covey for blaspheming against the T3 - it is truly a magnificent weapon.

can we drop this now? i promise i simply wont click on any more 'the T3 is so great' threads and leave you guys to your thing.

I never said they were the greatest. I said I've owned 3 and they all shot MOA. As for function/asthetics to each their own. Everyone thinks their rifle is the best.

Personally the thing that bugged me the most about them is having to remove the mag to top it up.

And yes, I'd rather have a T3 than an Abolt.

 

[Nester]

they're way better than Remingtons though

 

[the_big_mike]

I did, because its absolutely relevant. youre #####ing about a Savage action being a fraction of an inch longer in long action, whereas all bloody T3 short-actions arent even short-action.
a five year old could see the irony there.



you managed to bind a bolt with a free-floating bolt head by slightly jiggling it? ok, im calling BS on that as well. if youre binding Savage/Stevens bolts its time to learn how to use a bolt action
oh, and while were at it - the floating bolt head also potentially improves accuracy by creating a self-truing action virtually eliminating the need for expensive action blueprinting.

yeah, its a cost-saving feature as well but actually a clever one that both saves manufacturing costs and creates a better/more accurate action. imagine that? unlike all the manufacturing cost-saving 'features' on a Tikka that basically result in a crappier action for the end-user.

The only one doing any #####ing and crying around here is you. I am simply stating facts.

I'm not sure of how much longer the Savage bolt is then the Tikkas but I would assume it is at least an inch, maybe even more. I am just stating my opinions and #### YOU if you don't like them.

The savage long actions are very long. There. Does that get your knickers in a twist or something?

I don't see how SA keep being brought in when we are discussing long actions? Oh no!! Tikkas only have LA!!!! If they made a SA it would be way too light in the base model with all the plastic.

Also no I did not bind the bolt. Read.

I said, any upwards or downwards pressure on the bolt made it a lot harder to pull close. CONSTANT upwards or downwards pressure when bringing the bolt forward.

There, I repeated myself so you can understand it.

The tikka action is smoother and I prefer it over the savage actions.

Geez... have you even picked a tikka up?