Throttle_monkey1
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I agree geologist, those mags should be 20$
Tikka - slick actions ??
- Thread starter Sockeye
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I agree geologist, those mags should be 20$
Chucker243
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It is of my opinion that the slicker an action, the easier it is to maintain aim on follow-up shots. I remember a running coyote shot with my m595 .222 . I did not need the second shot, but, was amazed at how quick and effortless the second round chambered, while maintaining aim. To the contrary, a model 7SS Remington, in .243, friction jammed on me and cost me a nice 10 pt buck. Traded that rifle in on a T3 in .243 .
MIRAMICHIER
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To Sockeye's pointed question,I think are machined with closer tolerance's.My Tikka Varmint .223 still has a slick bolt after 4000 rds and still shots 1/4-3/8 groups with Berger 60 Gr.Just my View.Cheers
As noted earlier, the Tikka's magazine is a single stack and the follower is concave and doesn't rise high enought to apply pressure to the under side of the bolt, this along with good maching allows the bolts to slide by themselves when the muzzle is raised. Having a single stack magazine also is the reason the mag extends below the bottom of the stock in order to provide enough room for a full capacity. Flush fit magazines are staggered stack.
Throttle_monkey1
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Lol so true. I love my T3 though. Very accurate and I wouldn't be too upset if it got ran over by a bus.
When I worked a gun counter I was amazed at how strongly people correlated action slickness (actually only rear-forward movement of the bolt) and lack of 'rattle' with overall rifle quality. You could have given them an M98 actioned Rigby and they would have turned their noses up because 'it was sloppy when the bolt was back'. I saw many people turn down Rugers as they assumed the rougher bolt glide meant 'poor quality'.
Smoothest I have ever felt was the old Sauer 80 and 90 series. Camming lugs means round bolt into round raceway.
Exactly. Smooth bolt and good accuracy are the T3's best (only?) attributes.
I've never once noticed smoothness or lack of smoothness when reloading after shooting at an animal, using any rifle. If your rifle actually BINDS up, well, you should know that prior to going hunting and correct the problem.
Throttle_monkey1
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I corrected the problem by selling my pos ruger.
I look at it the same as the lever gun guys who send their rifles to have the actions smoothed up. It makes cycling the gun easier and more consistent. Now some designs are inherently smoother than others but if a manufacturer can't do their best to get rid of tooling marks or flashing/burrs that cause action grittiness, then yes that is a sign of poor quality/workmanship. A gritty trigger is no different.
Me too, twice in fact..
When the lugs extend beyond the OD of the bolt body, broaching and investment casting are about the only choices. An as-cast investment cast finish will never compare to a broached, reamed, or (usually) machined finish for smoothness.
When the bolt body is the same diameter or greater than the lug extension, it's possible a milling operation can do the job. I think the Ruger American is built this way.
I imagine some few guns are made by EDM wire, but that's an expensive and slow way compared to broaching.
You had a problem with a Ruger binding? Interesting.
Throttle_monkey1
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Yes I did. For the price I paid I was less than impressed. It was a gunsite scout and I paid just over a grand for it. It was short and handy but that's about it. My Tikka T3 beat it in every category except for adjustable LOP and mag capacity.
I would take a vanguard/howa 1500, Rem 700, Win m70, or older Euro rifle over it any day and still come in under the price of the scout. I spent considerable time cycling the action to smooth it out. No dice.
Anyways, we all have our preferences and I prefer a smooth action and good trigger.
I would take a vanguard/howa 1500, Rem 700, Win m70, or older Euro rifle over it any day and still come in under the price of the scout. I spent considerable time cycling the action to smooth it out. No dice.
Anyways, we all have our preferences and I prefer a smooth action and good trigger.
I liked how light the stainless Tikka in 7m RM felt. It also seemed to shoot laser like considering I'm out of practice.
I'd buy one now if I was looking for another hunting rifle. .243 or 7m-08 for mulies maybe?
I'd buy one now if I was looking for another hunting rifle. .243 or 7m-08 for mulies maybe?
The smoothest, slickest, best feeding rifle I have ever used is a Ruger M77 Mk II in .280. It's slicker and faster to feed than other rifles I've owned like a T3 in 6.5x55, a FN Supreme M98, multiple 700s ect.
Even though the smoothness gives me satisfaction, it really isn't any faster than any other rifle when I practice with a shot clock. Recoil and stock design have the biggest effect when running against the clock (I practice with a shot clock, both dry fire and live fire.)
Lots of tradeoffs...the old Mannlicher Schoenauer had wonderfully slick actions (and the rear locking Steyr's are pretty good too!) but the old MS are very difficult to work the bolt while the butt is in your shoulder. So despite the slick action...it is slower to operate.
