Tikka T1X or CZ 455

6mm Shooter said:
Heard the 2 shipment of T1x got recalled do to extraction problems
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I bought one just before XMas - no recall....... where did you hear this tidbit?

Read late last spring there may have been a recall on early rifles shipped in Europe. NA market started to get them later (like October+) so whatever issues there were would have been fixed.
 
love my 455 varmint in 17 hmr.
stock trigger is good, bolt is decently smooth, and I'm more than happy with the accuracy. only negative I have with my 455 - the bolt throw cuts it close with low-mounted scopes.
haven't fondled a t1x yet to compare.
 
I took these captures from a thread on Rimfire Central. CCI SV ammo, 25 rounds at 100 yards. 5 flyers. Maybe rim sorting would help that?

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KDX said:
I took these captures from a thread on Rimfire Central. CCI SV ammo, 25 rounds at 100 yards. 5 flyers. Maybe rim sorting would help that?

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Those results are splendid, if true. Having 80% of CCI SV rounds, not known as match quality, produce sub-MOA results at 100 yards may be considered quite good. By extrapolation, since groups more than double when distance doubles, at 50 yards those 20 rounds out of 25 would produce a group even smaller than half the size achieved at 100 -- so 20 of 25 would be in a group much less than half-an-inch. It would be instructive if these kind of results could be repeated by the shooter.

Regarding rim sorting to reduce flyers, perhaps it will do so to some extent with ammo such as CCI SV and other non-match quality ammo. Anyone who wishes to try should post the results with as much evidence as possible.

The consensus among those who have tried sorting rimfire ammo for rim thickness is that with match ammo it doesn't make a difference, at least with regard to results obtained. The majority of those who tried it decades ago when it was more widely used -- perhaps because match ammo was less consistent than it reputedly is today -- no longer sort, saying it is largely an unproductive use of time. Clearly if sorting made an appreciable difference, all serious bench shooters would likely be doing so as every competitive edge is sought and utilized. Nevertheless, there are always sceptics who regard rim sorting as a useful method to improve their selection of ammo, and as always there is room for dissent.
 
grauhanen said:
Those results are splendid, if true. Having 80% of CCI SV rounds, not known as match quality, produce sub-MOA results at 100 yards may be considered quite good. By extrapolation, since groups more than double when distance doubles, at 50 yards those 20 rounds out of 25 would produce a group even smaller than half the size achieved at 100 -- so 20 of 25 would be in a group much less than half-an-inch. It would be instructive if these kind of results could be repeated by the shooter.

Regarding rim sorting to reduce flyers, perhaps it will do so to some extent with ammo such as CCI SV and other non-match quality ammo. Anyone who wishes to try should post the results with as much evidence as possible.

The consensus among those who have tried sorting rimfire ammo for rim thickness is that with match ammo it doesn't make a difference, at least with regard to results obtained. The majority of those who tried it decades ago when it was more widely used -- perhaps because match ammo was less consistent than it reputedly is today -- no longer sort, saying it is largely an unproductive use of time. Clearly if sorting made an appreciable difference, all serious bench shooters would likely be doing so as every competitive edge is sought and utilized. Nevertheless, there are always sceptics who regard rim sorting as a useful method to improve their selection of ammo, and as always there is room for dissent.
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Check out YoDave's post in this thread. He used a proven rifle in a 50 meter tunnel with match grade ammo.

yodave said:
SK Rifle Match ammo sorted into 0.039. 0.040 and 0.041, anything outside of these measurements went into the fouler box
50 meter test tunnel with a proven rifle capable of the testing the true results of rim thickness, quite obvious that my rifle does not like anything that measures more then 40 thou, vertical stringing was the result.

Both targets on the left are 39 thou, ones in the middle are 40 thou, right hand targets are 41 thou, so is rim thickness a thing??? you bet your ash it is.........


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https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1810842-Who-makes-the-best-Rim-thickness-gauge
 
KDX said:
Check out YoDave's post in this thread. He used a proven rifle in a 50 meter tunnel with match grade ammo.


https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1810842-Who-makes-the-best-Rim-thickness-gauge
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I guess that settles it then, doesn't it. I think I might get a rim thickness gauge. Anybody have a recommendation for a purpose-made rim thickness gauge?

Referring to the results shown in the target photo shown above, which rim thickness would be the best? If there were more than six samples from which to evaluate the results, perhaps the answer would be more clear.

Another question for rim thickness advocates, in a box or brick of ammo what percentage of the ammo is in each of the sizes -- 0.039" or 0.040" or 0.041"? What percentage don't fall into any of these sizes?
 
grauhanen said:
I guess that settles it then, doesn't it. I think I might get a rim thickness gauge. Anybody have a recommendation for a purpose-made rim thickness gauge?

Referring to the results shown in the target photo shown above, which rim thickness would be the best? If there were more than six samples from which to evaluate the results, perhaps the answer would be more clear.

Another question for rim thickness advocates, in a box or brick of ammo what percentage of the ammo is in each of the sizes -- 0.039" or 0.040" or 0.041"? What percentage don't fall into any of these sizes?
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Welcome to the dark side. I think every rifle will be different so you will need to sort your ammo and test it in your rifle to see which one it likes. I read posts from a guy on rimfire central who shoots a lot of match ammo every year and he sorts his. Hold off on buying a gauge for now (if you want). I had a prototype built by another member on this board that I will be testing that does more than just measure the rim thickness. If it works well I will talk to him about getting some mass production (somewhere between 10 and 100) going.
 
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