haha how is a .300 win mag slightly more accurate than a .308 MacKillan? where did you pull that stat from...and i can't believe people are going on about 30-06 is better than a .308, they are ballistic twins until you get into heavier bullets...the .308 is a FINE moose gun it will take anything in North America except large bear...(and even there it would probably do just fine) ..there's nothing more that needs to be said about it..it's not even debateable it's been proven already.
Tikka T3 Tactical
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accuracy = not really a function of the round other then your more scare of the recoil and tend to flinch more on a .300 win mag.
killing power = yup. quite a bit more and you can shoot heavier bullets with a bit higher velocity.
common = both are common and very available
.308 = deer / cougars / bad dude targets at the BCRA service matches
.300 win mag = moose / bear / elk / frozen water mellons at 1000 yards.
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I don't know about more accurate, But it does have more RECOIL!
I've hunted in northern bc most of my life and I can tell you that the .308 is not a good moose gun. What kind of meeses are you guys shooting, little itty bitty baby ones?? I've seen the .308 moose saver put more wounded animals on the run then any other gun. They just don't have the ft-lbs at range that the .300 win mags do. Humane kill = sure kill and the .300 win mag or .300 weatherbee magnum is a better "canadian tire" round (canadian tire as it is available anywhere
) .308 is a great cougar or deer rifle or tactical round my .203243023423 cents.
I suppose politeness is not your forte. I was told that because of higher velocities the 300 Win Mag would have a flatter trajectory. I may be wrong and should have checked out my information. Can you provide trejecory, velocity information. Ive seen .308s do one shot kills on moose, brown bear etc. so I would agree with you there. Does a .306 have more speed, mass upon impact as compared to a 30-06? Lets not say the .303 iis similar.
i wasn't being impolite? ..that's the problem with typing....i'm sorry if you thought i was...but yes you're absolutely right the .300 win mag has a flatter trajectory for sure using the same weight bullet...but doesn't necessarily mean it's more accurate...the .308 has slightly less velocity than a 30-06..as for mass upon impact..well they shoot the same bullet so they would be the same if the same weight of bullet was used...with reloading the 30-06 has quite an advantage over the .308 especially with heavier bullets but a moose isn't going to know if a .308, 30-06, .303 or a .300 win mag hit him inside of 200 yards...if the bullet is in the right spot it will kill him dead...people wounding moose with a .308..well i wasn't there but i'm guessing the shot placement was not correct or maybe they were not using the proper bullet?..a 180gr Barnes TSX from a .308 there is NO way it will not harvest a moose cleanly with a heart or lung shot...bullet construction and proper placement are critical more so than calibre; that nobody can argue.
Flatter trajectory with a farther reach does not result in increased accuracy? Ive seen many moose done with a .308 so no argument there but velocity and size of bullet and possibly shape, consistency etc will determine stopping power, won't it not?
yeah what is stopping power? it's not strictly ft/lbs...or Taylors KO value...who really knows...i would define it as a bullet able to penetrate to the vitals and expand and cause a large enough wound channel to bring the animal down..now a higher velocity round may impart more shock to the animal and cause a larger temporary wound channel which in turn could bring it down quicker but if you plow a 180gr .308 round into a moose and it penetrates and expands in through the lungs it will bring him down..maybe not as fast as a .300win mag but nonetheless it will do the job.
He just likes good gear and doesn't settle for second best. Neither should you. Sure, he's highly opinionated. I'd rather hear that as opposed to someone dancing around issues offering advice on what they'd heard on the internet or what they'd thought based on little to no first hand knowledge. Like him, or hate him, the man's experience is substatial and his observations have merit.
FWIW, he does like Tikka, Sako, and others. You just haven't seen all of his postings. Savages are his tomato stakes.
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There is just as much positive as negative about them.
This is a funny post. I really think you need to own or shoot one before any pont you make is valid on any post. Snipers Hide specialy and every forum!
The funny thing is that post negative posts are by people that infact do not own one.
We do not know each other on this form, I could be a 16 year old kid that owns nothing and say I do and offer advice on guns i have no idea about.
The Tikka is no Timber wolf, nore i would expect it to be. But on an equal playing field in factory rifles, tikkas they hold there own, sorry they are ugly to some guys. In fact some would agree that a new remington the only value it offers is the action that comes with it.
I have infact owned many remingtons that shoot to my satisaftion, I have also owned many that did not, that said same as Savages, and Winnies...
Tikkas yes are sure far from the end all to be all, same as all the factory rifles.
Wiill say this they make good and bad ones of everything from guns, to shoes to cars, this is no different lots of guys pass judgement on this and forget to look at the 100,000 they make and what people say, and sit back and always come back to one guy that had one bad thing about any rifle, weather it me a Tikka, rem or what ever. If they were all junk I would not own any, but in reality I own them.
I had a Bad mil-spec rem just lately but it looks like some guys are happy with theres, or maybe it was just me, and I missed the boat on the load.
Regards
This is a funny post. I really think you need to own or shoot one before any pont you make is valid on any post. Snipers Hide specialy and every forum!
The funny thing is that post negative posts are by people that infact do not own one.
We do not know each other on this form, I could be a 16 year old kid that owns nothing and say I do and offer advice on guns i have no idea about.
The Tikka is no Timber wolf, nore i would expect it to be. But on an equal playing field in factory rifles, tikkas they hold there own, sorry they are ugly to some guys. In fact some would agree that a new remington the only value it offers is the action that comes with it.
I have infact owned many remingtons that shoot to my satisaftion, I have also owned many that did not, that said same as Savages, and Winnies...
Tikkas yes are sure far from the end all to be all, same as all the factory rifles.
Wiill say this they make good and bad ones of everything from guns, to shoes to cars, this is no different lots of guys pass judgement on this and forget to look at the 100,000 they make and what people say, and sit back and always come back to one guy that had one bad thing about any rifle, weather it me a Tikka, rem or what ever. If they were all junk I would not own any, but in reality I own them.
I had a Bad mil-spec rem just lately but it looks like some guys are happy with theres, or maybe it was just me, and I missed the boat on the load.
Regards
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I think that's kinda the point. They don't like them so they don't own them. You don't necessarily have to own anything in order to have a working knowledge of it. Though, I would agree owning any rifle would generally produce greater insight to its capabilities or lack there.
You can tell a poser when you see one. While rude and sometimes crude to our more civilized Canadian mannerisms, the NOBODY's of the internet are more apt to be more knowledgable than most.
For me, there's probably less than a dozen or so regular board members of all the sites I visit that I would actually consider or value their opinion. Sadly, there are precious few on this site that I would consider their advice as sage.
Factory rifles as we all know are hit or miss. Sometimes you get a good one, sometimes you don't. You pay your money and you take your chances.
Damn, there's something about me that is just kickin' to try one of those Tika Varmints. Perhaps, a .260 Rem, a 6.5x55mm, or how about a 7mm/08? For the money, a Tik Tac is way too much for what it is. Hell, a good custom isn't far off from that price tag.
Hmm...sounds interesting.
A lot of thorough info on the T3 Tactical...very good, fellas!
I like to share the fact that I'm graced with the very limited opportunity of having a Tikka T3, .223 with less than 1000 rounds through it; a Leapers scope, and an option of a free case all for $700 from a friend.
Sadly, this is far out of my current budget.
I like to share the fact that I'm graced with the very limited opportunity of having a Tikka T3, .223 with less than 1000 rounds through it; a Leapers scope, and an option of a free case all for $700 from a friend.
Sadly, this is far out of my current budget.
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