TIKKA T3 VARMINT STAINLESS 22-250, 223 or 243

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What would be the best twist rate for the 22-250?

Which of these calibers will the best accuarcy?

If there are any advantages or disadvantages to a certian caliber please let me know?

Thanks Adam
 
Thank you Wonsky.

I have been looking at other articles that say the Tikka are hard to upgrade. What is meant by this? I have also reading that the glass-fiber reinforced copolymer polypropylene stock is hard to install a bedding in. I was reading this in a Chuck Hawks review and to me he was just more inclined to the way things were done before and in rifles that not everyone can afford today.

Does this mean that later down the road when I shoot out the barrel it would be hard to replace it with lets say a stainless steel barrel with cut rifleing with a twist rate of 1:12?

I have been doing all this reading but am not able to see any customizing done first hand so some of these things are still confusing to me.

Thank you.
Adam
 
243 would be my pick, you get the added versatility for deer sized game. That would be the only reason not to go 22-250 though, easy to load well. A twist like that would limit your bullet weight selection... I like heavier bullets, but as a laser driving 45-55 gr pills it would be nice and fast for the 400 yards and under stuff.
 
The T3's Varmint's don't need upgrading. Cook up a good load and you're set. I have a T3 Lite in .223 1:8 twist. Seemed the perfect marriage of small caliber and easy carry gun for calling 'yotes. Generally shots under 150 yards and long times between shots. If you are looking for a true varmint rifle where you may be shooting strings of shots at gophers at extreme ranges go with the 22-250 since the HB can take it. But if gophers aren't the main game and 'yotes are the .243 is your gun. And it will also drop deer like lightning too.

I was thinking about ordering one in LH in 7mmRemMag but I bought an all IHC stamped M1 Garand so that'll have to wait!
 
Grasshopper86 said:
Thank you Wonsky.

I have been looking at other articles that say the Tikka are hard to upgrade. What is meant by this? I have also reading that the glass-fiber reinforced copolymer polypropylene stock is hard to install a bedding in. I was reading this in a Chuck Hawks review and to me he was just more inclined to the way things were done before and in rifles that not everyone can afford today.

Does this mean that later down the road when I shoot out the barrel it would be hard to replace it with lets say a stainless steel barrel with cut rifleing with a twist rate of 1:12?

I have been doing all this reading but am not able to see any customizing done first hand so some of these things are still confusing to me.

Thank you.
Adam
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There are a lot of people who would say Chuck Hawks blows Donkey balls.
 
Adam:

It is not clear what you use the rifle for – hunting or paper target and distance you intend to shoot at.

You are likely going to get advice all over the map. T3 Varmint is a great shooter for sure.
 
Sorry Danny Boy.

I am mostly going to be using this gun for punching paper at ranges from 100 - 300 yards. I would also like to do some little hunting with it varmint and maybe deer.

would a 55 grain pointed soft point be enough stopping power/expanshion for a deer in the 100 to 200 yard range. With WELL placed shots!

At 100 yards there is 1201 ft-lb with this tip and out to 200 there is 861 ft-lb.

My unlce used to shoot moose with his .243 and they never went far? could i use the 22-250 for deer?

I would be hunting on the edge of a field (shooting into field from edge) so deflection is not a concern.

Thanks,
Adam
 
very hard to answere your request ...you did not post your LOCATION !!!!

i live in Quebec and 223 cal or 22-250 are not permitted for deer hunting ...

with the 243cal. and the rifle of YOUR choice you can varmit hunt and deer,bear and also moose. with the proper bullet ...
 
black powder said:
very hard to answere your request ...you did not post your LOCATION !!!!

i live in Quebec and 223 cal or 22-250 are not permitted for deer hunting ...

with the 243cal. and the rifle of YOUR choice you can varmit hunt and deer,bear and also moose. with the proper bullet ...
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Sorry Black Powder

I live in Ontario. I looked at the regulations all I could get from it was that rimfires are not allowed and center fires are (Summary of Firearms Restrictions for Hunting in Ontario p.g. 22)

Thanks,
Adam
 
Down in the US they are allowed to hunt with AR15s so there should be a wealth of knowledge on some of the US boards. You can find it even with beginner Google-fu.

Personally, I would go with the .223 in a 1/8 twist. You can use heavier bullets for hunting/long range and lighter bullets for gopher blasting.

http://www.6mmbr.com/223rem.html

There is also considerably less noise with the .223 compared to the .22-250 (and I would imagine the 243 as well) and you aren't going to burn through a barrel as fast if you are doing lots of shooting.

http://www.sierrabullets.com/index.cfm?section=bullets&page=bc&stock_num=1395&bullettype=0

All that said, take my advice with a grain of salt. My hunting experience is nil and there are others on the board that will know better.
 
Grasshopper86 said:
Sorry Danny Boy.

I am mostly going to be using this gun for punching paper at ranges from 100 - 300 yards. I would also like to do some little hunting with it varmint and maybe deer.

would a 55 grain pointed soft point be enough stopping power/expanshion for a deer in the 100 to 200 yard range. With WELL placed shots!

At 100 yards there is 1201 ft-lb with this tip and out to 200 there is 861 ft-lb.

My unlce used to shoot moose with his .243 and they never went far? could i use the 22-250 for deer?

I would be hunting on the edge of a field (shooting into field from edge) so deflection is not a concern.

Thanks,
Adam
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IMO 22 is too light for deer. That is why some Provinces made it illegal for deer hunting.

I am not a fan of 22-250 so I will leave that to someone else.

A .243 is a good round for varmint, predators and deer. Make sure you use premium bullets (e.g. 100 gr Partitions) for deer. I wouldn’t go hunting moose with a .243 for the same reason I don’t hunt deer with a 22.

If moose is on your radar screen, pick up a 223 for paper/varmint now and buy a .270 or .308 for deer/moose later. Once you get into firearms, you will want to buy more and more… All members in this forum can attest to this disease.

The T3 Varmint Stainless in 223 is a very accurate rifle (I have one). I go deer/moose hunting with a T3 in 308 and 300WM.

BTW. Moose steaks taste good and are a great source of protein. :D:D:D
 
Grasshopper86 said:
I have been looking at other articles that say the Tikka are hard to upgrade. What is meant by this? I have also reading that the glass-fiber reinforced copolymer polypropylene stock is hard to install a bedding in. I was reading this in a Chuck Hawks review and to me he was just more inclined to the way things were done before and in rifles that not everyone can afford today.


Thank you.
Adam
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If you want a rifle that would benefit from an upgraded barrel, an upgraded trigger group, an upgraded stock, and an upgraded action to make it shoot like a Tikka, buy a Remington.
Otherwise, save youself all the hassle and expense, and buy yourself a Tikka.

The synthetic stocks on Tikkas fit the actions so tightly that grinding out the stock and bedding it would likely do more harm than good.

Here's why I love my absolutely box stock T3 Varmint in .223.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=543739
 
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