Tikka T3x vs Model 70

I have owned several Tikkas, and several M70s over the years.
The only ones I have kept are the M70 rifles.

Accuracy? My M70 in 325 WSM shoots everything well, and is
a sub-moa rifle with loads it likes. My FW 7x57 - very accurate,
and fun to shoot.

I just cannot warm up to the T3 series rifles. Had a 338 which
was a bit of a dog, never shooting under 1.75 moa...huntable,
but not what I would expect.

OP, Buy the M70. You will not regret it. Dave
 
Both are good reliable guns, if a little extra weight doesn't bother you I'd take the M70 Featherweight just because its a Winchester CRF action.
 
Wow, thanks for the mini essay! Lots to consider. When looking at Tikkas, I've never felt "the love" that other guns inspire.
 
CZ vs Win 70

How would you rate a CZ557 American versus a Win Model 70 featherweight? I have no experience with CZ, but have read good things.
 
How would you rate a CZ557 American versus a Win Model 70 featherweight? I have no experience with CZ, but have read good things.

Gross. The CZ-550 was a really nice rifle with a mauser 98 double square action and proper CRF large claw extractor and ejector blade as well as a proper safety like the Model 70. What a great rifle! While the CZ 550 is a modified copy of a Mauser 98 (like the M70), the CZ-557 is basically a copy of a Remington 700 with a sako style claw extractor. What a downgrade! The CZ-557 is made very well and it's sako style extractor is an improvement over the cheap ball and detent you find in your Remington Savage Ruger cheap-o-lux rifles but it is what it is. If that's what you're looking for, you can save money by going with a weatherby vanguard series 2 sporter. Same sako style extractor push feed design and has a one piece bolt which easily screws out the back for field stripping. They're a great value. They come with a monte carlo Turkish "a" grade stock with a rosewood cap. Really - an exceptional value if you're okay with that kind of design.
 
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How would you rate a CZ557 American versus a Win Model 70 featherweight? I have no experience with CZ, but have read good things.

I'd suggest you have a look at a Kimber Hunter or Montana...IMHO these are the best of anything mentioned so far :)
 
I have 3 tikkas and really like em. Accurate as hell. BUT, the winnie has a 3 position safety, controlled round feed and much better wood. Tikkas are awesome but seem more 'budget'. Plastic mags, plastic trigger guard, wood stocks are kinda cheapo. Winchester 70 is the kinda rifle you'll pass to the kids.
 
please do yourself a favor and weight your tikka: you may have a surprise and found them not that light once a mag filled a sling and a scope is on it ...
I’m primarily a backpack hunter, so everything I own gets weighed. The Tikka I hunt most with weighs almost 9 pounds, but it’s still lighter than a similarly scoped and setup M70 EW.
 
Definitely not Tikka. They may be manufactured to a high standard of quality control but ultimately, they're designed to be built as cheaply as possible rather than to be the best it can be. They have a cheap bar stock receiver, a bedding system that is designed to be made cheaply, push feed, relatively tiny cheap extractor, cheap plunger ejector, mutli-piece bolt, etc. Oh they're accurate enough, but so is a ruger american or savage or Mossberg. They're polished up to a high standard but make no mistake, the Tikka is designed from the ground up to be made cheaply and is not a quality design.

The modern Model 70 is a spiritual successor to the pre-64. It's got a solid machined receiver with a flat bottom and fully integrated recoil lug. The bolt is a one piece design with an excellent CRF hybrid design. Just unscrew the back of the bolt and the entire firing pin and spring will come out for incredibly easy field cleaning and very reliable operation in cold weather. The extractor is clearly superior and the proper ejector means the shooter can control exactly the ejection power of the round; the cartridge can be delicately angled out about 30 degrees from the action and be plucked out manually, if desired or thrown out with authority. The tikka can only eject one way, of course. The safety on the M70 is a better design as engaging it applies extra compression on the spring which disengages the firing pin from the sear. If there was any mechanical failure or a really bad drop, the sear disengaging will not cause the firearm to discharge because the firing pin is held back away from the sear. You definitely can't say the same about the Tikka. The model 70 has nice steel parts throughout and doesn't use plastic, period. If you opt for the featherweight you get a gorgeous walnut stock which is glass bedded. Their stainless is nice, too, if you're into that.

They both have great triggers that break cleanly without creep. They both have smooth bolts; a lot of people rave about the smoothness of the Tikka's bolt. In my experience, the M70 generally will have a smoother bolt, especially once all the factory rest preventative gunk is removed and things are worked in a bit.

It's up to you but if I were in your shoes (and I have been) I would opt for the design which prioritizes doing things the "right way" or the best way to do things without exception rather than prioritizing being cheaper for them to manufacture. Tikka has a very high standard of manufacturing, but their design is really NO DIFFERENT than a Ruger American. It's just a really well made Ruger American. Does that stack up against a M70? Definitely not.

I've got a M70 that's many decades old. When it came into my hands, it had obviously been hunted a lot and had seen some hard service. It's still doing well and impressed me very much when I tested it at the range. It's got some battle scars, especially on the all steel trigger guard which, though marred, is still intact. Actually the wear on the steel and walnut has left the rifle with a rather attractive patina. I wonder how the plastic part on the tikka would stack up to a similar lifetime of use and abuse. I've seen no indication that the two 'modern' M70s I have are lesser in quality to this great old one. In fact, the machining is smoother and nicer and the bolts are smoother.

The only thing the Tikka does better than the M70 is have a lower cost of manufacture and make more money for Tikka. The M70 is VERY expensive to manufacture. VERY. Their markup is probably not much, but as a consumer that's not your problem. Buy the better quality rifle, you won't regret it.

Not to burst your bubble, but the Win M70 does not use a one piece bolt, the handle/ring with cocking cam cut out is swaged and soldered to the bolt body.
I think the only rifles today under $1000 that use true 1 piece bolts are the Howa/Vanguard rifles.
 
Floor plate for hunting applications
If you want a range rig then mag system is suitable

Any particular reason for this sentiment? You are not the first to recommend floor plates for hunting. Maybe it's me but I hunt in a stand and pulling a mag out has always been my preferred option when moving about.
 
Any particular reason for this sentiment? You are not the first to recommend floor plates for hunting. Maybe it's me but I hunt in a stand and pulling a mag out has always been my preferred option when moving about.

i ve seen tikka users that lost in the mountain their magazines or the bolt. make sure you have extra mags if you intend to use the magazine model.
 
Any particular reason for this sentiment? You are not the first to recommend floor plates for hunting. Maybe it's me but I hunt in a stand and pulling a mag out has always been my preferred option when moving about.

You do not have the magazine sticking out it can become dislodged while setting up for the shot if you happen to lean it against a branch etc - with a floor plate you have no worries of a) losing your magazine or mis-feeding a round.
 
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