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How come CTVSP is having an IPSC match? Whay are they allowed and not CTM. What's going on here.

What about all the other clubs are they allowed to have regular matches yet.

How come it's taking so long while CTVSP did it so fast. Maybe IPSC Quebec should ask CTVSP how they did it.

Will we be able to have regular matches this year...
 
Yes, as promised to all our faithful members effective immediately IPSC is back in its previous full force at Club de Tir Ville St. Pierre. The Surete du Querbec has restored all our privileges regarding our matches.
CTVSP was created with IPSC in mind, and we will continue to be the leaders of IPSC in Quebec.

I would like to take this time, to give a special thank you to the Club de Tir Ville Saint Pierre IPSC committee that helped to prepare a concrete, intelligent and detailed presentation for the Surete de Quebec. Special thanks also to our great Club reps Sylvain et Peter and to Henry Cardinal for their endless hard work and intelligent input regarding IPSC at CTVSP.

We would also like to thank all those involved at the Surete de Quebec for meeting our CTVSP committee to discuss IPSC at Club de Tir Ville St-Pierre. It was gratifying to see their enthusiasm in holding a well-prepared meeting. The responsible staff and management of the Surete, helped us resolve the IPSC dilemma at CTVSP. It was a real privilege to be part of such professionalism. The Surete is to be commended for their patience and prompt action in helping our range return to its normal status.

CTVSP renews its commitment to make Quebec a great part of IPSC in Canada. This ordeal will prove to all IPSC Shooters our interest in helping our Quebec IPSC Shooters enjoy their sport. Please encourage and give your club reps all your support. Their commitment to the sport will only help all IPSC shooters in this province. Give them your backing in making all the necessary changes to return IPSC to its prior status.

Luigi Arena
Director of CTVSP
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my god could they suck up anymore. What a disgusting letter.
 
Not bad I think for CTVSP

Slavex I disagree with your comment. I personally think that that article was well written.

I also think they must be doing something that all the rest of IPSC Quebec is not doing.

Could it be that the people runing IPSC Quebec are a little lost, when it comes to legal matters.

I think that that polite letter from CTVSP had a little punch when it came time to face the SQ.

So maybe you should curb your comments a little, and give them some credit, it's called.... never mind the word is to complex. If it was not for CTVSP at this moment there would be no IPSC in Quebec, am I not correct.

By the way Slavex since you seem to be a very smart person and on the ball. What is CTM doing to get IPSC, or are they planning to fold .
 
Re: Slavex Remarks

Hi Slavex,

Allow me to introduce myself, I am Marco, the co-owner of CTVSP. I would like to know why you find our letter disgusting? I feel that we achieved our objective, by getting back IPSC,in record time. As gentlemen, we felt it was
right to thank all those involved in achieving this goal.

Maybe, where you come from, you call it sucking up, I call it being polite.

Many things have been posted about CTVSP, and I never felt that they meritted a response, however Mr Slavex, I found your remarks very offensive. I don't and I will never suck up to anyone.

If you have any other comments, feel free to contact me at CTVSP, or better
still, we can go for coffee, and you can tell me how you think I should run my shooting range.

Thanks

Marco
 
Ipsc

Great news for the competitors who shoot at CTVSP. They should be commended for their work, which sets a precedent that no doubt helps all of us.
 
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Hi Mr Marco,
Great job on getting back IPSC. Let me apologize for those who are born ignorant you must understand it's not their fault.

You are to be commended for your clubs commitment..to IPSC
 
are any other ranges in Quebec/Montreal area hosting matches? What about Franks new range?

Marco-> Good job in getting things straightened out.
 
We would also like to thank all those involved at the Surete de Quebec for meeting our CTVSP committee to discuss IPSC at Club de Tir Ville St-Pierre. It was gratifying to see their enthusiasm in holding a well-prepared meeting. The responsible staff and management of the Surete, helped us resolve the IPSC dilemma at CTVSP. It was a real privilege to be part of such professionalism. The Surete is to be commended for their patience and prompt action in helping our range return to its normal status.
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this is specifically the section of your letter that bothered me Marco. Maybe things are different out east. But to me the above is beyond sucking up, it's straight on tossing of the salad. They screwed with you, didn't follow the law, and now you kiss up to them? Sorry, but yeah I have a problem with that. If this is the kind of #### you need to do to be able to shoot IPSC in Quebec, I commend you for doing it, as I couldn't.
 
cruncher said:
Slavex I disagree with your comment. I personally think that that article was well written.

I also think they must be doing something that all the rest of IPSC Quebec is not doing.

Could it be that the people runing IPSC Quebec are a little lost, when it comes to legal matters.

I think that that polite letter from CTVSP had a little punch when it came time to face the SQ.

So maybe you should curb your comments a little, and give them some credit, it's called.... never mind the word is to complex. If it was not for CTVSP at this moment there would be no IPSC in Quebec, am I not correct.

By the way Slavex since you seem to be a very smart person and on the ball. What is CTM doing to get IPSC, or are they planning to fold .
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You know ####............ period !

Has CTVSP done some work to be able to host IPSC matches.....yes !......Congradulation to them to be the first to be "ipsc approoved" ......... But to imply that everyone esle sat there and did nothing.........that is a stupid way to think !

CTVSP got the OK form the SQ, so will other clubs in the province.....to think that it's ONLY because of CTVSP's work is like beleaving Santa exists.......

I have no grudge against anyone here..............but that "war" of who gets control of IPSC in PQ make me sick ! It only shows that even adults can act like children.....:(
 
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this is specifically the section of your letter that bothered me Marco. Maybe things are different out east. But to me the above is beyond sucking up, it's straight on tossing of the salad. They screwed with you, didn't follow the law, and now you kiss up to them? Sorry, but yeah I have a problem with that. If this is the kind of s**t you need to do to be able to shoot IPSC in Quebec, I commend you for doing it, as I couldn't.
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Out east, as you say, especially in Quebec, our friends of the Sureté are a bit like Canadian Customs, they twist the rules their way all the time and make them seem like they were 'official', (try importing pinned magazines from the US, there's a 50/50 chance of never getting them even if they are correctly pinned by the word of the law). If you want to resolve problems with them and/or convince them without taking them to court or through similar processes, you gotta make them happy. What Luigi wrote isn't what I call 'sucking it up', I call it playing their game. What the gang at CTVSP did helped IPSC in Quebec, and I personnally thank them, along with all the FTQ, ATPQ and others who helped.

P.S. Good to see you on CGN, Marco.
 
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There seems to be a CTVSP vs. everyone else debate going on here. What did you and your club do to get approval Marco? As of yet I am unsure if other clubs are approved for IPSC "while moving". Is there something they're not doing?
 
I ran Le Club de Tir de Longueuil for 7 years at the very beginning of IPSC in Quebec and was there at the opening IPSC match in CTVSP giving a hand with the MSS running on DOS at the time... just to say that I know a bit about running a Club, dealing with regulation and IPSC matches.
This being said, CTVSP were always have been a BIG supporter of IPSC in Quebec. Their commitment to the sport have been ongoing. I can appreciate the work it take to do so. On this crisis, one of many that we had in all Club in Quebec at one time or another, CTVSP was able to negotiate with the CFO and get IPSC going at their Club again : this is super and Quebec's IPSC shooter should Thank them. They did it professionally and politely, as it should be in any situation. That they publish such a letter is all right with me. This is the Internet and is probably read by CFO's and their staff and people who are not supporting our sport.

I do not agree with Slavex comments. He should remember that Quebec IPSC shooters have to hold their Provincial in Ontario..that CTVSP were able to resume IPSC shooting might be the beginning of a way out of this.

In a sport were we have a hard time to get shooters to give a hand to help set up matches and help run them, we should be proud of people who fight to give us those matches.
 
Well like I said, if that's what you have to do to play their game, then I guess you have to. But it still sickens me that you have to. No animosity to Marco or anyone, if you guys have to do that it's really too bad. But good for you for getting IPSC going at your club again.
From what I understand other clubs have also been inspected and passed and are just waiting for their paperwork to arrive.
 
April IPSC Match

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The games are back on at CTVSP. Call in now and book for the April 22 IPSC Match. Looks like it's gonna be a full house. All are welcome to attend.
 
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Great News CTVSP thanks for the info. Count me in.

Hey simonyzer sorry if I upset you? So tell me when is CTM having their first IPSC Match? After all you are going al lot of PR work for this range and you seem to have all the answer.:D :confused: :rolleyes:

This is the third time I ask this Question?
 
cruncher said:
Great News CTVSP thanks for the info. Count me in.

Hey simonyzer sorry if I upset you? So tell me when is CTM having their first IPSC Match? After all you are going al lot of PR work for this range and you seem to have all the answer.:D :confused: :rolleyes:

This is the third time I ask this Question?
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Stay tuned, details will be posted shortly.
 
cruncher said:
Great News CTVSP thanks for the info. Count me in.

Hey simonyzer sorry if I upset you? So tell me when is CTM having their first IPSC Match? After all you are going al lot of PR work for this range and you seem to have all the answer.:D :confused: :rolleyes:

This is the third time I ask this Question?
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HAHAHAHHA That's the funnies of all...

I am CTM's spokesperson..........:confused:

Then I also "work" for: Sorel, Granby, Maska, St-Jacques and CTVSP....Yes, I also mention CTVSP when a match comes up or when someone is looking to buy shooting goodies.......That's surprises you ?

And no, I don't have an awnser to everything.....I do not know when CTM will host their first IPSC match. Hopefully, soon.....

Again, congradulation do CTVSP, I bet todays match was fun, like all the others I've shot in the past there.
 
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