TIS vs. BFG
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for your 700p TIS M24 all the way!!
for an AR the Vickers! its a two point that is fast to adjust,I have run the SOC its great as you can run it on many guns,I run it single point on my shotgun,two point on my SPR three point only works for mr if I am only wearing a shirt it gets caught on everthing on my Chest rig
the best thing about BFG is the sling is stiff but soft so it won't rub the #### out of you
Jamie
for an AR the Vickers! its a two point that is fast to adjust,I have run the SOC its great as you can run it on many guns,I run it single point on my shotgun,two point on my SPR three point only works for mr if I am only wearing a shirt it gets caught on everthing on my Chest rig
the best thing about BFG is the sling is stiff but soft so it won't rub the #### out of you
Jamie
Thanks for the info! That's a damn nice AR you've got there BTW (and I love that stock paint job...hmm...I almost want to paint my 700P but I'm thinking I'll wait until it gets more aesthetically unappealing.
Longshot: Pretty much what Jamie said: offhand, sitting, kneeling, shoulder carry...It's a pain to carry this thing without a sling in the bush.
-Rohann
Longshot: Pretty much what Jamie said: offhand, sitting, kneeling, shoulder carry...It's a pain to carry this thing without a sling in the bush.
-Rohann
Single point slings attach to the front swivel and to your arm.They are what you want for shooting in any other position than prone...which I guarantee you won't be doing much of anyways.
Look at some pictures of british soldiers in Ireland and tell me how many slings you see.
Look at some pictures of british soldiers in Ireland and tell me how many slings you see.
The TIS slings work the same as a single point sling when using the armband. I use mine for hunting all the time. I don't think Rohann will be taking his rifle into combat so he should be pretty safe putting a sling on his rifle. They do help when shooting offhand, kneeling etc... and if your going to pack the thing in the bush it's nice to shoulder the sucker for the long hikes.
John
John
Single point connects to the rifle at a single point.
Two point connects to the rifle at two points
Three point connects to the rifle at two points and has a strap that runs along the rifle and connects one end of the sling to the other.
Determining what you are using your rifle for pretty much determines your slings.
For combat, service rifle, three gun style shooting a combat two point sling is the best. This would be the Blue Force Gear Vickers sling.
For sniper, precision and target style shooting you would want to run a two point sling like the TIS M24 or Turner style slings. I haven't used the style Longshot is refering to so I can't comment on it.
For some applications the single point sling is the way to go. One example would be for breaching shotguns where it's only used a certain times. It can also be used for three gun for those that don't like two point.
Single point slings work very well however they do have downfalls.
The three point sling is on the way out as other slings like the Vickers slings can do everything the three point was supposed to without the disadvantage of the strap getting in the way of the bolt catch, charging handle etc.
I heard alot of reference to Isrealis and other forces about what they are using, however if you compare the combat experience of most of their troops compared to the Americans, Canadians and others in Afghanistan and Iraq you find a huge difference.
I also see alot of guys slinging their rifles the wrong way. The best way to do it is over your strong shoulder and under your weak arm. You will see photos of Isrealis, reservists and others doing it the other way, mainly with three point ( but also with two point) slings. This is so they can rest their arms on the rifle while standing around.
Take a close look at what you want your rifle to do. This will help your choice in slings.
Two point connects to the rifle at two points
Three point connects to the rifle at two points and has a strap that runs along the rifle and connects one end of the sling to the other.
Determining what you are using your rifle for pretty much determines your slings.
For combat, service rifle, three gun style shooting a combat two point sling is the best. This would be the Blue Force Gear Vickers sling.
For sniper, precision and target style shooting you would want to run a two point sling like the TIS M24 or Turner style slings. I haven't used the style Longshot is refering to so I can't comment on it.
For some applications the single point sling is the way to go. One example would be for breaching shotguns where it's only used a certain times. It can also be used for three gun for those that don't like two point.
Single point slings work very well however they do have downfalls.
The three point sling is on the way out as other slings like the Vickers slings can do everything the three point was supposed to without the disadvantage of the strap getting in the way of the bolt catch, charging handle etc.
I heard alot of reference to Isrealis and other forces about what they are using, however if you compare the combat experience of most of their troops compared to the Americans, Canadians and others in Afghanistan and Iraq you find a huge difference.
I also see alot of guys slinging their rifles the wrong way. The best way to do it is over your strong shoulder and under your weak arm. You will see photos of Isrealis, reservists and others doing it the other way, mainly with three point ( but also with two point) slings. This is so they can rest their arms on the rifle while standing around.
Take a close look at what you want your rifle to do. This will help your choice in slings.
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Thanks for the replies!
Thanks for the explanation Farmboy, this helps out a lot. A single-point sling definately isn't what I'm looking for. For the most part, I'm looking for a good carry sling and a sling I can shoot with off-hand at times. For the most part in the bush, I can find a log to rest it on, lie prone with a bipod, or use the Hathcock sitting position. I won't be shooting offhand all too much, but it would be handy to use if I ever did shoot offhand.
What would you recommend? The M24?
-Rohann
Thanks for the explanation Farmboy, this helps out a lot. A single-point sling definately isn't what I'm looking for. For the most part, I'm looking for a good carry sling and a sling I can shoot with off-hand at times. For the most part in the bush, I can find a log to rest it on, lie prone with a bipod, or use the Hathcock sitting position. I won't be shooting offhand all too much, but it would be handy to use if I ever did shoot offhand.
What would you recommend? The M24?
-Rohann
Yes, like the guys have said, the M24 would suit your needs perfectly.
The only problem with these is waiting for them, we have another shipment inbound, but they were to be here back in Dec.
We have a couple in khaki in stock.
The only problem with these is waiting for them, we have another shipment inbound, but they were to be here back in Dec.
We have a couple in khaki in stock.
