Titegroup and Lee Pro Auto-Disk Powder Measure

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I'm just about to start loading my first rounds of 9mm using Titegroup and 124gr Campro plated. I've looked at some recipes and decided to try 3.8gn Titegroup, 1.12 OAL and .376 crimp. My question to the knowledgeable people here is which disk will get me close to 3.8gn? The scale I'm using gives me a reading of 3.67gn using the .32. Is this about right? the digital scale I'm using seems to correspond with the beam scale my turret press came with but I'm not certain it is 100% accurate

Please feel free to share any recipes for 124gn bullets. I will be firing them in a M&P 9mm. I would also like to find a recipe for light target loads for the lady friend. 3.6gn perhaps?

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I'm just getting started :d
 
I have done loads with .30, .32, .34, and .37. Out of my sig 226 I had best results with .32. None of these amounts caused any issues with the function. just slightly better accuracy.

Have fun.
 
Something you can do if you find that your best load is between two of the hole sizes is to open up the smaller hole slightly with just about any sort of tool to make that hole drop the weight of charge you want. Then dedicate that one disc for that weight of charge with Titegroup.

The other option is to buy the screw knob adjustable powder bar to fit the Autodisc measure.
 
I'm also a fan of the Lee adjustable charge bar. Have no idea how many rounds of pistol ammo.... of various calibers.... I've loaded so far, since first going to this setup 6-7 years ago. But, the charge bar has been 100-percent consistent and reliable in delivering the precise powder charge weight needed. This includes Titegroup among powders tested. Charge weights are verified on an accurate beam scale during set up. Then randomly checked during loading sessions. This loading tool may not suit your purposes. But, may be worth looking at.
 
If you don't want to putz around with it too much, I've been using 4gr with the same setup with 1.15 OAL. Works good.
 
3.6 and 3.8 of Titegroup at 1.12" are both very soft. If you chrono'd them I believe you would find them well under 1000fps. One of my competition loads is a Canpro 124 at 1.12" with 4.2gr of Titegroup. Makes around 1040-1070 fps.

Also, you shouldn't have to crimp 9mm. You should only be looking to remove the belling. The 9mm headspaces on the case so if you over crimp them, it may cause feeding issues.
 
Something you can do if you find that your best load is between two of the hole sizes is to open up the smaller hole slightly with just about any sort of tool to make that hole drop the weight of charge you want. Then dedicate that one disc for that weight of charge with Titegroup.

The other option is to buy the screw knob adjustable powder bar to fit the Autodisc measure.

I would not use Lee's adjustable charge bar with Titegroup. I had a lot of problems with the powder bridging using that combination. If you don't want to permanently modify the smaller disk, you can fill one of the large ones with epoxy and drill it out to the desired size after it cures.

Auggie D.
 
I am using about 4.1grs of titegroup in 9mm and .40cal, I would have to wait to get home to check which auto disk I am using, but the LEE guide in the back of their book is always throws a bit less than what they printed. Keep in mind powder may vary by volume in different lots.
 
I know this is not exactly what OP asked for, but with all the trouble customizing/dedicating discs, why don't just buy a dillon powder measure to use with LEE press which works great without all the extra work. you do need to buy dillon powder die and caliber specific funnel to flare the case which is not expensive anyway.
 
Thanks for all the tips guys, greatly appreciated. I'm looking to start off with a light load and slowly work my way up to see what works best for my pistol. I will have to look into the lee adjustable charge bar and I'm only doing a mild crimp.
 
I would not use Lee's adjustable charge bar with Titegroup. I had a lot of problems with the powder bridging using that combination.
Auggie D.

I'll second that. To my knowledge the problem comes from the smallest adjustment not lining up properly with the hopper opening.

I've been using .30cc with Titegroup for years for about 3.3/3.4grs (125gr cast LRN).
 
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I would not use Lee's adjustable charge bar with Titegroup. I had a lot of problems with the powder bridging using that combination. If you don't want to permanently modify the smaller disk, you can fill one of the large ones with epoxy and drill it out to the desired size after it cures.

Auggie D.

I third this, it is just not consistent.
I use 4 gr with campro 115, works well with everything I own.
 
I didn't run into this issue with the adjustable bar. It worked for me for years. And it's working well for the buddy that I passed the Lee press onto for a few years now who has loaded many thousand rounds with the charge bar.

However you guys having a problem does remind us that we should never assume anything and that everything should be checked when doing this sort of stuff. If for some reason the adjustable bar is not being moved back far enough to sit the smaller size opening under the port for the powder then some additional adjustments are called for.
 
I have done loads with .30, .32, .34, and .37. Out of my sig 226 I had best results with .32. None of these amounts caused any issues with the function. just slightly better accuracy.

Have fun.

I just got a chance yesterday to try my loads of .32 and .34 and I will agree with you the .32 is more accurate. I only loaded 15 rounds of each but I will try loading 100 or more for my next range trip just to confirm.
 
I use 3.8gn TG + 124gn Campros at 1.145 COL for my Sigs - very soft shooting, any less and I start running into cycling issues.
 
For the most part I'm getting 3.64gn from the .32 disk and 3.8x from the .34. I really like the .32 charge, the recoil is reduced and they function flawlessly in my M&P9. I also tried some in a SIG P226 without problems.
 
Use the chart! A copy above is good if you can't find your own. Find a combo that works and stick with it. When you tire and want to find that perfect load, get the adjustable charge bar. Or jump to the Lee autodrum powder measure and a powder drop extension.
 
If you have several disc sets -- they may not all throw the same. I Have 4 auto discs, so 4 of each size disc. They don't all drop the same weight.
 
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