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Superbrad said:
Being transparent........ you need to fire form your brass......

.223 is likely among the most available brass, will give you that...... fire forming the brass will require effort, time and money...... as well as powder, a primer etc..... reloading will require dies etc......

I completely "get" that a gun nut might want to do it "just because"...... but fail to see where an AI 223 would meet expectations......

If you have the coin to get your jollies out of making a .223 perform better, and if that tickles your whiskers....I fully support you....

Just don't think it applies to op....
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Forming the brass requires no further effort than shooting regular brass, Brad. It certainly isn't detrimental to accuracy, and is no different than shooting any other round, from any other rifle.
Being transparent, you fail to see where a 223AI would meet your expectations, which is fine, but I also clearly stated what my expectations are, and how the 223AI more than meets them, especially compared to "next size up" case.

R.
 
Rman said:
The comedy is non stop.
Maybe apologise for not having any experience regarding the topic at hand, but still feeling the requirement to comment on it?

I guess, according to your definition, Hoyt must be being defensive as well?

C'mon man. Grow up.

R.
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Again, you are absolutely right.
 
253......(grin)

It's funny what lengths guys will go to, to not shoot..... Forming 100 brass is a fun couple of hours for me. A moly'd 50 gr vmax is a good time in my book.

Moly and an AI chamber gets me 3150 fps with a 75gr amax. For me, it's worth it every time. Trigger time is never a bad thing. Baffles me why some will go to such great length to NOT shoot more....
 
They also miss the fact that the first time you fire a case in a chamber is fireforming with ANY cartridge, whether it is an Ackley or not.

It's way more common to post another couple /few hundred times on CGN, stand at the gun shop counter or go to a gun show. Buy and sell a rifle or 10 without firing them. That's what the real "experts" are made from.
 
I like some of the Ackley cartridges.

I have a 250 AI and a 6mm AI.

If I were to build a sporter 223 I'd probably go the AI route. Just because it might wind some people up! :p

Then again, I'll just use my 222 Mag....it's more faster! :cool:
 
I've always kinda thought the 280ai was awesome. Good preformance without having to go with a magnum action. Potentially my vote for a single rifle to hunt all game with.

I can't say the 223ai really tickled my fancy though, except one time i was thinking about how i could buy a 223, then rechamber it down the line... of course if i really want a faster 22 might as well go 22-250... or just get a 243 (that's the one i ended up doing)
 
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Gatehouse said:
The truly best AI? The 300WSMAI
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And then neck it down to your preferred big game caliber, .224"... should be interesting with the reverse taper... unscrew barrel, insert round into the conical chamber from the front of the receiver, screw barrel back on, fire, unscrew barrel, remove casing... repeat... I believe you have discovered a cartridge for those barrel-burning "range-hounds"... should save them alot of money in the long run.
 
skma said:
Is there advantage of a 338ai win mag over the normal 338 win mag? Thinking of doing that to my rem 700 338
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As opposed to some BS answer, I would suggest not. Very little if anything to be gained, performance wise, on doing it. There are better choices for increasing 338 performance on that action.

R.
 
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