To Brake a bolt action rifle or not too?!?!?

I use to own a 600 Mohawk carbine in .308 and even that was a joy to shoot.
I dunno....maybe a .308 pistol might have some unpleasant recoil? Just don't see it in a rifle....
 
Does your scope weigh nothing Gunnee? Or is it a different rifle than the tikka?

Cause my tikka has reciever sights and weighs 6.6lbs loaded.

I know we all have different recoil tolerances; but lets not pretend the .308 kicks...
 
Brakes serves multiple purposes with inherit pros and cons. Notice that nowadays most of the CGN threads ask such generic questions to be unanswerable.


Maybe Gunnee can shot 1/2" groups at 100yd all day long with irons using a 6.5lb T3 lite. YOU NEVER KNOW :)
And yeah, anyone that finds a properly fitted 308Win kicks has limited choices.
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Does your scope weigh nothing Gunnee? Or is it a different rifle than the tikka?

Cause my tikka has reciever sights and weighs 6.6lbs loaded.

I know we all have different recoil tolerances; but lets not pretend the .308 kicks...
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Generally speaking no. Trade off is recoil vs noise. For a hunting bolt gun I would opt for a better recoil pad if it doesn't affect the length of pull too much or health problems are not an issue. If either of those are the concern than maybe a compensator is the way to go (or more suitable caliber)
 
Thanks all, the 308 idea was more for look, I love the kick of it, it is awesome to see people who are eager almost grabbing it from my hands when I go to shoot, then the fear on their face, it's not much kick at all
And yes the 338 is a BIG round, I wanted to make it into a precision hunting rifle, I am nervous of the kick it has a brake installed already I'm thinking of swapping it for a different style and swapping it to a Tac 21 Chassis to add the pistol grip to aid in recoil, but to take it hunting I'd have to check local laws and regulations, the mags are the hard thing to find now haha
 
Maybe Gunnee can shot 1/2" groups at 100yd all day long with irons using a 6.5lb T3 lite
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It's possible; that would certainly make my groups look like trash.

My tikka can shoot lights out with scope; like all of them. But it just carries and points so well with the receiver sights it is worth the tradeoff in accuracy. I don't take long shots anyways.

Also my tikka is a .338 wm and you couldn't pay me enough to put a break on it. I'll take a punch in the shoulder over 3 days of buzzing ears any day. Different strokes.

And I know I'm not the only one who hates the guy at the range who has a break on his 300 WM. Or even worse; the tacti-cool guy with a short barreled 308 with a brake cranking away.
 
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This thread needs a tie in to the heaviest kicking rifle thread. Worst for me was a Savage 110 in 7mag. Much has to do with the stock design and fit. Some are just brutal in calibers that most would hand to a 12 year old.

I am a average guy, have shot some pretty big boomers. Getting accustomed, shooting in positions that allow your body to move and absorb the recoil, using brakes, and premium pads....all helps.

Personally, one of my favorite cals.....the 338wm kicks worse than some of the large bores. Its a combination of recoil impulse....in lbs, and speed. Most would only shoot my one 338 >>>>only once. Whereas, my 375 Rum with a brake, will deafen the guy beside you, but is very manageable.

Just got a 416 Rigby, a heavy beast in M1917>>>>cant wait. Standing on the sticks, or with every bag of shot i can fit on my Lead sled. Not stupid enough to try it prone. I believe its 60-63lbs recoil.
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Now a 416 Rigby kinda nudges you back...a buddy of mine shot one once and said the Tiger Balm and 26er of Crown were well appreciated afterwards...:)
 
conor_90 said:
Does your scope weigh nothing Gunnee? Or is it a different rifle than the tikka?

Cause my tikka has reciever sights and weighs 6.6lbs loaded.

I know we all have different recoil tolerances; but lets not pretend the .308 kicks...
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Well Conor, let me tell ya.....

I started with a single gold bead on the end of the barrel of my T3, then I realized that was too heavy, so I switched to titanium.

Then, I realized that i should wear an onion on my belt, 'cause that's the style these days, and found this new-fangled carbon fiber stuff. Now I have the lightest precision bead sight known to man.

I acknowledge that you are possibly western canada's toughest man, possibly even western and upper canada's. When you're done wrestling your bear this fall, let me know and I'll meet you at the trailhead for a little donnybrook.

I've said it on here no less than 10 times now in the last 9 months - I THINK A T3 LITE IN .308 IS NOT FUN TO SHOOT AT THE RANGE. I BRAKED MINE, AND I DON'T REGRET DOING IT. I'm not pretending, that's my opinion. If you disagree, fair enough.

I can put 50 rounds of my .338LM down range, or shoot 100 rounds of 10gauge, or shoot my .500S&W one handed, and laugh it off.

I know, I know. I'm a 225lb pussy, and not very bright to boot.
 
Wow taking it a little personally?

I was just curious what rifle you have that is 6.5 pounds with a scope and break...

You don't have to justify anything to me; congrats on being able to put a whopping 50 rounds down range from a 15lb braked rifle

let me know and I'll meet you at the trailhead for a little donnybrook.
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:rolleyes:
 
conor_90 said:
It's possible; that would certainly make my groups look like trash.

My tikka can shoot lights out with scope; like all of them. But it just carries and points so well with the receiver sights it is worth the tradeoff in accuracy. I don't take long shots anyways.

Also my tikka is a .338 wm and you couldn't pay me enough to put a break on it. I'll take a punch in the shoulder over 3 days of buzzing ears any day. Different strokes.

And I know I'm not the only one who hates the guy at the range who has a break on his 300 WM. Or even worse; the tacti-cool guy with a short barreled 308 with a brake cranking away.
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The noise is a big problem. I shot my .223 (with a compensator) without muffs to off a skunk in the yard last summer and holy sh!tbalz, did I pay for that.......

My brother has a .308 with a factory brake - savage 10FCP I think. Not his choice, but he is still western canada's biggest pussy - but only because he's my little brother.
 
conor_90 said:
Wow taking it a little personally?

I was just curious what rifle you have that is 6.5 pounds with a scope and break...

You don't have to justify anything to me...
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Just in a bit of a mood - sorry.

you're right. I'd guess with the scope it's 7.5lbs. They're about 6.25 naked, no??? it wear a 24oz vortex.
 
Depends on your gun I suppose; mine weighs less than listed on the website; my friends weighs an ounce more.

It's okay we all have moods I suppose. Like I said we all have different recoil tolerances. If you think I'm western canada's toughest man you have not met Dogleg...
 
conor_90 said:
Depends on your gun I suppose; mine weighs less than listed on the website; my friends weighs an ounce more.

It's okay we all have moods I suppose. Like I said we all have different recoil tolerances. If you think I'm western canada's toughest man you have not met Dogleg...
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I'll weigh mine - all of mine mouthing off is based on tikka specs.......
 
It's important to note that for all the T3s virtues... They should be ashamed of themselves for that "recoil pad".

Maybe "recoil concentrator" would be a better name... Worse than nothing. Before one leaves the store with a Tikka, one should have a limbsaver in hand.
 
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It's important to note that for all the T3s virtues... They should be ashamed of themselves for that "recoil pad".

Maybe "recoil concentrator" would be a better name... Worse than nothing. Before one leaves the store with a Tikka, one should have a limbsaver in hand.
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If the T3 in question is a ' recoil beast ' that certainly helps to tame it..
 
cody182005 said:
I have a brake on my 300 win "long range" gun. I usually spot for myself so it makes it a little easier to stay on target to see the impact. It does re-direct sound back and hearing protection is necessary. I fired a few shots while hunting and my ears were ringing for a few days. I have a Grizzly Gunworks clamp on brake on its way intended for my precision 308. I will let u know how it works out. I am putting a brake on my 308 for the same reason not so much because of the recoil but to make it easier to call my shots.
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I was thinking of making it a long range rifle, my 308 can take what ever I'm after here
 
Threads about brakes invariably turn into threads where some can proclaim their masculinity and toughness while questioning the lack of these attributes in others. Lost in the rhetoric are the facts: A well-designed brake is very effective at reducing recoil and can help many to shoot better. That a brake increases the noise as perceived by the shooter is certain. However, the same rifle without a brake will still cause permanent hearing loss if the ears are not protected. I do not have a rifle with a brake on it (although my 338 may have one in it's future) but I have shot a lot of rifles which wore brakes I had built or installed and, in general, I liked the effect. One I tested a couple of weeks ago was a light (about 7 pounds, all-up) 30-338 and I'm not sure I would have wanted to shoot it much without the brake. Interestingly, thirty-five years ago, I was solidly in the "if you need a brake, it's too much gun for you" camp but I have become a little more open-minded over the years.
 
My hunting rifles do not have muzzle brakes, my target rifles do.

Recoil reduction is only one attribute, the main reason is muzzle control and rifle torque.

To get the 'control' you need a very heavy rifle or a brake. My 300 WM can keep < 0.7 moa to 1000 yds can't control this 10.6# (all in) rifle with out the brake.

But to the OP I have a clamp on brake on a 223 Varmint, its like playing video game, its there to control the muzzle!

I got the clamp on brake here http://www.hss.net.au/product_info.php?cPath=118&products_id=1012 these folks are good to deal with and the brake showed up in ~10 days.

At the bench its not as much the sound increase it is the concussion.

And, many people take a stance on one snippet of what ever the issue is and stand firm on it , when further exploration is required to make an educated opinion.
 
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