To continue on the "youth" shotgun line of questions....

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So I have been doing some research and found that in 20 gauge:

1. The Mossberg Mini and Bantam kick like a mules; and
2. The 870 Compact also kicks and may, or may not have some quality issues.

So I thought maybe a petite Ugartechea SxS is the answer.... ;)

Back to reality. I haven't seen much on the Franchi 48-AL short stock or the Franchi Affinity Compact - Maybe the fact they are closing in on $1000 has a bit to do with it. Any comments on those two?

How about the Weatherby SA-08 Youth? How are those? Weatherby's website says it has a dual valve system to permit a wide range of loads. How does this shotgun cycle with the light 7/8oz loads? How is recoil with those light loads (and same questions for the Franchi pair as well)?

Thanks.
 
I own an 870 "Youth" (my kids all shoot trap with it, my 13 year old daughter hunts grouse with it) and have held/shot the compact. I haven't read any of your other posts on the topic but to me...those super tiny "compact" and "bantam" guns are simply too small. I get the concept, but in my opinion..if you're such a small shooter that you can't manage even an 870 "Youth" (21" barrel vs. the 18" on the Compact) then I'd like to suggest maybe shotguns aren't "for you" just yet. In other words, make the gun as small as you want...it's still a 20ga. Smaller/lighter gun=more recoil and if the kid is so small that they can't handle a youth, there will be a bit of a sting even with target loads.
 
A gas auto-loader will feel much softer on the shoulder, even in the youth models. I can't speak to the SA-08, but the 11-87 Youth 20 gauge I have has been used by 11-year olds quite well.
 
my fishing buddy has 4 grand sons he jus tput them all thru hunters edd .and got them each a nice over and under .one got a browning citori ne got a beretta 686 silver pigion and the other two got rugger red labels .all in 20g ,spent a good chunk of change but he figgers that these guns will last the boys the rest of there life and will family handme downs .spend good monsy on quality guns pays for itself over the years.i got to shot some skeet with all off them on the weekend and realy fell for the 686 just a fine shotgun .the reason he went with over and unders is the safety factor easy to load and unload .shorter gun overall and thy can hunt justabout anythink .spend as much as you can afford it is well worth getting a gun that fits the kid then going cheap and getting a gun that does not fit and wil kick the crap out of the kids D
 
Browning Citori MicroMidas. Nice gun. Within two years of purchase you can upgrade to a full length stock at half price. Very smooth action and it doesn't kick hard.
 
My daughter when only 10 preferred the Browning Micro BPS over the Browning Gold Youth. She said the pump gun kicked LESS. Both were too short for me and had mean knuckle nose recoil.

Darryl
 
I have a youth 870 20 gauge I use for 3-gun (I know....everyone laughs) and it's working flawlessly despite it's homely appearance. I found the small stock and shorter reach makes a good fit for my 5'5" frame and I shoot it much better than a full size shotty. I'd love to see Remington go back to the quality guns it used to make!
 
.22LRGUY said:
I own an 870 "Youth" (my kids all shoot trap with it, my 13 year old daughter hunts grouse with it) and have held/shot the compact. I haven't read any of your other posts on the topic but to me...those super tiny "compact" and "bantam" guns are simply too small. I get the concept, but in my opinion..if you're such a small shooter that you can't manage even an 870 "Youth" (21" barrel vs. the 18" on the Compact) then I'd like to suggest maybe shotguns aren't "for you" just yet. In other words, make the gun as small as you want...it's still a 20ga. Smaller/lighter gun=more recoil and if the kid is so small that they can't handle a youth, there will be a bit of a sting even with target loads.
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It wasn't my posts on the topic - it was a bunch of other folks with similar questions. My boy is just turning 8, and he is very keen. I want to keep that going by giving him opportunities, but I don't want to get one of these tiny things that will turn him off after firing it once. That is why I was looking at the SA-08.

He did like the 870 Compact, but SA-08 looked nicer and the action should absorb a bit of recoil.


FEG4032 said:
Browning Citori MicroMidas. Nice gun. Within two years of purchase you can upgrade to a full length stock at half price. Very smooth action and it doesn't kick hard.
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You can get the stock set from Browning?
 
yes browning will send you the full sized stock for you citori with in one year for a real good discount .I think that a good over and under is the best way to go for a new young shooter Dutch
 
Not having read your previous posts and tests done there will now ask what ammo have you been using or your children been using with the two guns mentioned?
Lighter target rounds or full hunting loads?
An Auto-Loader might be in your cards soon, but with that comes more heft and that will soak up some felt recoil.
As for the SA-08 and the gas settings is more for allowing the gun to operate and cycle the action for the lighter/heavier loads not so much as in the absorption of the recoil.
As for the Wby shotguns they are of Turkish manufacture and have seen one (wooden stocks) that was dropped in the marsh and took about an hour to retrieve according to the guys who dropped it.
When the tide dropped low enough to expose the gun they proceeded to stay out there and the wood swelled up and as they say ''the rest is history''.
Maybe a more expensive to operate 28 gauge is more in the cards for the kiddlette to shoot??
Tight Patterns,
Rob
 
sp far th boys have been shooting the Remington target loads in 7,5 .thy are booked in for the longpoint water fowl youth hunt ,and we got them each two boxes of rem steel only 2.75inch .should be fine for ducks in the decoys .D
 
It will be a while before he hunts with it. It would be mainly for fun. I am hoping that a light 7/8oz target load, combined with the recoil absorption of the semi-auto and a good pad would give recoil similar to a light single shot with no but pad in .410 with 2.5" 1/2oz loads.
 
Me and my buddy both bought Beretta 391RL (reduced length ) 20ga guns for our daughters. They are quality guns with a very manageable recoil. They shoot clays and hunt with them and they have 3" chambers for when they get older. Great guns. Expensive, but will last a lifetime and can be easily swapped out for an adult stock or thicker recoil pad if ever needed. Don't waste money on cheap hard kicking guns.
 
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