To everyone panic selling

Arietta said:
Selling a gun that potentially leaves you vulnerable to a criminal charge and using the cash to buy a gun that doesn't is the wisest choice.
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The only problem with that is that "a gun that doesn't..." is, by the Liberals' actions, is a standard and goal post that is ever shifting. What one firearm is considered "safe" today will be at risk tomorrow. It is really too hard to tell (maybe it's not given we all know they want a gun free Canada). And here's the problem with the whole criminal charge thing - that also can be a moving set of goalposts as well. Look at what happened during the trucker's convoy.

When you have a government who can arbitrarily bend the rules or try to make new rules to circumvent existing ones, we are not playing on a level playing field here. Look at what they are doing with C21, eliminating the normal debate on it. Heck, they could make it a criminal charge one day for me to even express discontent with these such policies. People may laugh at that and think my tinfoil hat is on too late, but this is the kind of crap my parents escaped from, oh 45 or years ago...and now it's coming to a Canada near you, if it isn't already here...
 
The wisest choice seems to be buying guns at the moment , and getting Grandfathered in as it sounds like the selection for new guns being imported into Canada is going to become very limited . These amendments to C-21 sound a lot like the handgun options where if you already have it , you can keep it , but if you want to buy new ones , then your options are going to be very few as nothing will be allowed to be imported into Canada . People can always make more money , but it is difficult to buy a gun if the shelves at the gun store are bare ; and guns can't be bought at any price .
 
Midnight Rider said:
The wisest choice seems to be buying guns at the moment , and getting Grandfathered in as it sounds like the selection for new guns being imported into Canada is going to become very limited . These amendments to C-21 sound a lot like the handgun options where if you already have it , you can keep it , but if you want to buy new ones , then your options are going to be very few as nothing will be allowed to be imported into Canada . People can always make more money , but it is difficult to buy a gun if the shelves at the gun store are bare ; and guns can't be bought at any price .
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Agree. I have to say it is very odd, maybe weird, that during the handgun freeze, the Polys didn't seem to be as incessantly irritated that current handguns weren't fully banned. Yet with a somewhat similar dynamic in these amendments, somehow this is not acceptable to them. This seems eerily familiar in many US states, where handguns are not even close to be as much targeted as black sporting rifles. There's got to be some global playbook that these groups use as their MO.
 
vests stop pistol rounds. vests don't stop carbine rounds. it's not the public they are trying to protect.

regardless, i think folks should differentiate between breaking the law and fighting the law. all the brave words on the internet about breaking the law will turn to vapour i'd bet. focus on fighting the law.
 
Midnight Rider said:
The wisest choice seems to be buying guns at the moment , and getting Grandfathered in as it sounds like the selection for new guns being imported into Canada is going to become very limited . These amendments to C-21 sound a lot like the handgun options where if you already have it , you can keep it , but if you want to buy new ones , then your options are going to be very few as nothing will be allowed to be imported into Canada . People can always make more money , but it is difficult to buy a gun if the shelves at the gun store are bare ; and guns can't be bought at any price .
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sorry, the whole c21 thing has been a quickly moving target for me - is grandfathering on the table now?
 
thegazelle said:
Agree. I have to say it is very odd, maybe weird, that during the handgun freeze, the Polys didn't seem to be as incessantly irritated that current handguns weren't fully banned. Yet with a somewhat similar dynamic in these amendments, somehow this is not acceptable to them. This seems eerily familiar in many US states, where handguns are not even close to be as much targeted as black sporting rifles. There's got to be some global playbook that these groups use as their MO.
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There is.....

https://disarmament.unoda.org
 
Ipscshooters said:
Everything NR has already been grandfathered, the panic sellers don't see that part though......
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I'm not totally convinced the NR firearms that are in existence are being grandfathered. Yes, they are not necessarily subject to the new "characteristics list" that will be used to ban post C21 released new design firearms, but the re-emergence of that firearms review committee worries me. They have already indicated some of these gun control groups will have a seat at the table and that whole committee's task is to determine how to handle the firearms in existence. Given the fact that these groups and Poly in particular are adamant about a number of our existing semi auto firearms being banned (ie. what was in the former G46 amendment), the committee can easily recommend and OIC to ban everything else in existence pre-C21, which would then scoop up the rest of the semi autos and placate Poly, while C21 going forward bans everything else. I would agree that grandfathering is possible IF they had explicitly stated it like they did with the handguns OR if they did not put that review/classification committee back in existence.
 
thegazelle said:
I'm not totally convinced the NR firearms that are in existence are being grandfathered. Yes, they are not necessarily subject to the new "characteristics list" that will be used to ban post C21 released new design firearms, but the re-emergence of that firearms review committee worries me. They have already indicated some of these gun control groups will have a seat at the table and that whole committee's task is to determine how to handle the firearms in existence. Given the fact that these groups and Poly in particular are adamant about a number of our existing semi auto firearms being banned (ie. what was in the former G46 amendment), the committee can easily recommend and OIC to ban everything else in existence pre-C21, which would then scoop up the rest of the semi autos and placate Poly, while C21 going forward bans everything else. I would agree that grandfathering is possible IF they had explicitly stated it like they did with the handguns OR if they did not put that review/classification committee back in existence.
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The previous list provided with c21 made it clear that it is not just semi autos they are after, it is everything and the committee they intend to set up will have no limitations
 
Arietta said:
Selling a gun that potentially leaves you vulnerable to a criminal charge and using the cash to buy a gun that doesn't is the wisest choice.
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It is a choice that ignores the reality of what we are facing. The previous list included the Ruger #1. It doesn't get anymore hunting/target single shot than that and yet it was on the ban list. EVERYTHING you think of as being "safe" today will end up on a list sooner or later. The goal of the leftists and anti is FULL and COMPLETE disarmament of society.



FatCatsDad said:
You should just sell all yours now and buy golf clubs
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Yep. Some people are just not cut out for the fight ahead.



Brian46 said:
The previous list provided with c21 made it clear that it is not just semi autos they are after, it is everything and the committee they intend to set up will have no limitations
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Correct. There were single shot rifles, 22 rimfires, old historical bolt actions and the like on that list. It doesn't get any more comprehensive than the last list. Basically they want EVERYTHING. People need to get this fact through their heads and decide now if they are up for the fight for our rights and possibly our freedoms or if they'd rather have the money to buy a jet ski or a set of golf clubs.

It saddens me to think of how many gun guys are unable or unwilling to think outside of the mindless rules installed by disgusting, immoral govt to control us. When the CPC ended the long gun registry there were all kinds of guys whining about keeping their registration certificates. The cage door was open and people were simply afraid to walk out of their confinement.

When I started in with guns, we used to take our AKs and ARs out into the bush to shoot puddles and tin cans with 30 round mags. I bet a shocking percentage of gun owners today wouldn't agree to such if it were suggested that should be allowed. :(
 
thegazelle said:
Agree. I have to say it is very odd, maybe weird, that during the handgun freeze, the Polys didn't seem to be as incessantly irritated that current handguns weren't fully banned. Yet with a somewhat similar dynamic in these amendments, somehow this is not acceptable to them. This seems eerily familiar in many US states, where handguns are not even close to be as much targeted as black sporting rifles. There's got to be some global playbook that these groups use as their MO.
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Similarities are indeed happening, and it seems all at the same time, here and the U.S the song sheet is identical.
 
Their recently attempted C21 ammendments tried to ban a ton of NR rifles. So I'm not sure how anyone could think that NRs are grandfathered. Or ever will be. It's crystal clear that they will only stop at total disarmament. If that happens, buckle up.
 
Unholysavage said:
Their recently attempted C21 ammendments tried to ban a ton of NR rifles. So I'm not sure how anyone could think that NRs are grandfathered. Or ever will be. It's crystal clear that they will only stop at total disarmament. If that happens, buckle up.
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I think what people are trying to say is that there are a lot of NR semis in the wild. Even if banned no possible way to pay for confiscation heck they can't even collect the restricted that they already banned and that's knowing who has what. So if banned the only way the feds are getting them is you choosing to turn it in.
 
If it looks like I’m panic selling it’s cause I’m upgrading:) with everything I’m seeing in this world let alone this country, and the stories that my grandparents told me about living in Russia during the 30s-40s, the last thing I’m EVER going to do is disarm myself.
 
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Ya I am not selling any of my private property, Liberals Can go swimming for them, i am now stocking up on ammo and looking at purchasing Cadex CDX-40 SHDW.
 
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