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Looking for some feedback from Keltec RFB owners (previous and current). Out here we do a lot of truck hunting, and my stag10/bolt guns although accurate as hell are (in my opinion) very bulky and unwieldy in and out of vehicle.
I've been playing with the idea of buying an RFB (probly 18.5") but can't seem to really find any good feedback from them. Seems to be either love/hate on other sites.

My typical requirement is maximum 1.5moa with handloads, ideally 1moa or better, and RELIABLE.

So, RFB owners (previous or current), is this platform worth buying into? Secondly, if so, where to buy one (AH is empty)?

Thank you for your feedback.
 
I had an RFB for the exact same reasons that you are considering one. My advice is to stay away from the RFB. While the design is quite intriquing (like an upside-down FAL tilting-block action), the accuracy is mediocre and reliability is questionable (mostly due to feeding issues with otherwise functional PMags). Accuracy averaged 2 MOA and greater with commercial hunting ammo. Failures to fire often occurred with the 2nd shot, making follow-ups a dubious proposition. Stoppages were a special kind of hell to diagnose and clear due to the complex action and forward-ejection system.

Personally, if offered a Tavor 7 or a Keltec RFB there would be no hesitation to adopt and run with the Tavor. The RFB? Not so much.

My $.02
 
My 2 cents.

I found it a very likable rifle, it sits nicely in variety of positions, heavy and durable. Accuracy was 1.5 MOA at best, occasionally with hand loads. Off the shelf hunting rounds were 3moa at best for the cheap stuff, 2 MOA for the really expensive stuff.

Reliability, awesome. I hear about fussy rifles, but I never found mine to be remotely fussy, would fire anything and consistently.

Downsides, I really missed the ease of performing a press check, and until I changed the muzzle brake I felt the compression of my eyes if firing a string of rounds. (That muzzle is not that far away from your face, the wrong brake and you soon know it.)

I have sold mine, but only because I want to focus on another platform and the RFB was supposed to be my quad bike gun, but I new progressed onto a quad.

I would recommend one, without reserve. I used plastic mags, which some hate, but I personally found them fine.

Candocad.
 
I like mine but I'm on the fence about keeping it, reliable and never had an issue (federal blue sp 180 gr and Winchester service grade ammo fmj 147 gr) , accurate enough at 2 moa (on a bench with quad rail and bi-pod). Using it on a couple hunts this year, it slings well and even though it's heavier it's been handier than other rifles I've used. Bullpups take some getting use to, and the RFB is very compact. The trigger is phenomenal for what it is.
 
I had good success with 168 gr Nosler CT BST and medium load of Varget.

Easily MOA with 3 shots ....1.5 MOA with 5.

Once you set gas system to your load it will run fine.

Only reason why I sold it was to free up cash and was concerned about warranty and long term reliability.

But if you want a hunting gun that is compact and keep it for that your o.k

Just don't buy it to run 1000 rounds a year.
 
I loved mine, it’s was fairly accurate, handled well and never once failed to function. I still miss mine, might get another one someday. It’s liked the heavy bullets, it did not like 110gr bullets at all! Long throat.
 
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I'm just going to drop this here ;)

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...-Non-Restricted-308-IWI-Tavor?highlight=Tavor
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I personally don't see what the tavor 7 brings to the table more then the RFB, part from the manufacturers rep! And don't give me the, Oh IWI firearms are the best and proven in the military $#!t. Cause that what it is $#!t! It's one thing to do a 3-4 moa ish 223 rifle it's a whole different ball game to a 308! How many times have we seen this, such and such firearms manufacturer is putting out awsome almost bomb proof 223, then puts out a 308 just to have it have serious reliability issue. Like DD, ATRS, dpms etc... making an 308 auto loader from a 223 is like comparing american football and European football, it sounds the same but its a whole diffrent ball game!

And I did not name them in the last paragraph cause I wanted to give special attention to them, DTA. Oh how everybody was saying this was the rfb slayer! How DTA the makers of tactical precision bullpup where making this magical 308 semi auto bullpup who was comming to market ( 2014 or 2015???) That could be converted to 223, shoot sub moa, be realiable as an top shelf ar, forward and side eject and shoot unicorn pi$$! I predicted and warn people to take a deep breath, but around here it is always about the flavor of the day! Now how many years was it delayed? What about those conversion kits? What about reliability of the first couple of batches? What about that not so sub moa accuracy? At the end of the day most will not admit it but comparing the mdr to the rfb, the mdr was just, if not more plague with growing pains then the rfb and not any more accurate! So you where in the US basically paying twice the price for a name bramd and a few features but not much else and I dont thing the mdr as much more to offer then the rfb! My point is this not that the mdr is $#!t its a good gun but it was an unproven flavor of the day just like the tavor 7 is and the mdr choked.

Also forget 90% of the reviews you see online cause as much as I enjoy watching those guys most of them will just not put out the review if the guns is having ftf or fte or thinker with it until it works before publishing the vid.

And after 6 months that its out if it is not shooting at least 1.5 moa it will get burried in real reviews.
 
Love mine.

It has run flawlessly since new. It is compact and very handy. This is one of the most accurate semi auto rifles I have ever owned and is capable of sub 1.5 MOA. A few things ro recommend. There is an after market firm plastic cheek piece that snaps onto the top of the receiver that makes it far more comfortable too shoot. A really compatible scope mount is a must. Burris PEPR works well for me.

My favourite semi auto black rifle (and I have a bunch, have shot military and civilian, for fun and for competition. Many rounds over many years from spud gun to 105mm howitzer)
 
About the rfb 95% of people who have ftf are the folks who listen to review's online and heard the reviewer say "I never played with the gas system and it's 100%" that's a load of crap, it is simple pic ammo and spend about 5 round tuning the gas system your rifle will be 100% and will recoil about 40% less. It's simple you put one round in the mag shoot and open the gas port(vent) until the rifle dosent lock the bolt open, then you go back 2-3 clicks and it is set.

Now I saw about 1.5 moa with Winchester 168gr. ballistic silver tip and 2 to 3 moa with norc copper wash. Gun as ben 100% and with the Kel-tec brake recoil about 40% less then the m305 in BF stock I had and about the same as a 7.62x39. I would say grip, charging handle and safety ar better then an ar for me but mag and bolt release are not as fast as the ar location. This gun has more steel then people think, but I can see how some people don't like the plastic it features. To me the rfb plastic seems less polymer but more hard plastic, but it feels really solid. Also if you buy new not from irg kel tec and volt have a great life time warranty.

I say go for it and dont get sidetrack by the flavor of the day you might be disapointed with the tavor.
 
55recce said:
Love mine.

It has run flawlessly since new. It is compact and very handy. This is one of the most accurate semi auto rifles I have ever owned and is capable of sub 1.5 MOA. A few things ro recommend. There is an after market firm plastic cheek piece that snaps onto the top of the receiver that makes it far more comfortable too shoot. A really compatible scope mount is a must. Burris PEPR works well for me.

My favourite semi auto black rifle (and I have a bunch, have shot military and civilian, for fun and for competition. Many rounds over many years from spud gun to 105mm howitzer)
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Yes kidex cheak rest, I would also say kel-tec muzzel brake, urban ert rfb sling, kel-tec extended charging handle and personally aero precision mount, its lighter and lower profile on the side so less finguer snaging.
 
IAFS said:
Looking for some feedback from Keltec RFB owners (previous and current). Out here we do a lot of truck hunting, and my stag10/bolt guns although accurate as hell are (in my opinion) very bulky and unwieldy in and out of vehicle.
I've been playing with the idea of buying an RFB (probly 18.5") but can't seem to really find any good feedback from them. Seems to be either love/hate on other sites.

My typical requirement is maximum 1.5moa with handloads, ideally 1moa or better, and RELIABLE.

So, RFB owners (previous or current), is this platform worth buying into? Secondly, if so, where to buy one (AH is empty)?

Thank you for your feedback.
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Mine did 1moa with federal premium factory ammo and opened up the group after 3 rounds. No issues with operation provided I set the adjustable gas block properly for the ammo I was using. Some people claimed magazine issues, my thermolds worked flawlessly
 
Brian46 said:
Mine did 1moa with federal premium factory ammo and opened up the group after 3 rounds. No issues with operation provided I set the adjustable gas block properly for the ammo I was using. Some people claimed magazine issues, my thermolds worked flawlessly
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A good point, i forgot that , yes thermold mags!
 
I'm not really a semi-auto or black rifle guy, but I periodically buy one to play with, knowing full well that i will be probably tire of it and sell it soon. The RFB is one of the very few (along with the Mini14 and M305) that I have kept and used and enjoyed for a good long while. Factory ammo is between 2 - 3 MOA, and the right handloads will get that down to 1.5 MOA. I've never seen 1 MOA and haven't spent any time chasing it. Functionality has been 100%; I do adjust the gas system for new loads but I do it more to minimize wear and tear than to enhance cycling. I pretty much always stick to 165's nowadays and haven't needed to touch the gas system since restriciting myself to them.

I took pains when buying mine to get the Gen2 gun. The Gen1 had some complaints leveled against it; I have no experience with it or its problems, but my Gen2 has been delightful.

I'm in love with the bullpup configuration for compactness, and I never get tired of watching that nice neat little pile of brass accumulate in front of me. :)
 
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