Metric FAL mags. Thermolds are great.
To RFB or not to RFB...
- Thread starter IAFS
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I don't care what the reviewer that hace all the insider connections, free stuff and early demos for reviews says, to me basically a tavor 7 is not even an option as it is unproven. It has not ben mass reviewed and the first gen could well be riddled with problems for all I know. Now it may turn out to be the best thing since slice bread but i'l hold judgment until it's ben out a good six months! I'v seen too many gun being over hype and fall on there face.
Personnaly it's all up to what you need. For customization, ease of aftermarket parts, range fun I would say stag10. For brush hunting, hunting in vehicle or on quads RFB.
The stag 10 has better range ergos: lop adjustment, customization (stock rails, grip, etc) and mag change. Rfb has way better carry and hunting ergo: you can aim down sight bassically forever, you can easily ads the rifle with one hand witch alow you to clib and move branches, you can single point sling the rifle with good ground clearance, bolt is easyer to ride forward for a quieter loading.
Two plus both those have forever warranty!
Had one.
It was very accurate.
It was an early gen 2, adjusting the gas system every time I changed ammo was a pain.
Failures to feed and ejected happened quite often.
It was impossible to insert a full mag with bolt closed. I had the original mag, one in metal and a plastic one. I could insert fully loaded mag with bolt open, but then releasing bolt would not feed one, I had to help it chamber first round. To make feeding reliable I could only load 3 in the mag.
Sent it for warranty work but did not improve at all, so I sold with loss and a big disclaimer.
It was very accurate.
It was an early gen 2, adjusting the gas system every time I changed ammo was a pain.
Failures to feed and ejected happened quite often.
It was impossible to insert a full mag with bolt closed. I had the original mag, one in metal and a plastic one. I could insert fully loaded mag with bolt open, but then releasing bolt would not feed one, I had to help it chamber first round. To make feeding reliable I could only load 3 in the mag.
Sent it for warranty work but did not improve at all, so I sold with loss and a big disclaimer.
All of them failed.
I had the original mag.
3 Metal mags, new that I bought from US
A plastic mag that I bought from EE.
Most likely it was an issue with the rifle, not mags, but the worst mag that I had more issues with was the plastic from EE.
LordEvilPepper
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Under a rusty barge in BC
Buddy bought one, sold it to me and i got rid of it within short order.
It was not an accurate gun even with hand loads. I couldnt consistantly keep groups under 3 inches.
Every ammo brand/ projectile required about 50 round down range to properly tune the gas system, failure to do so resulted in FTF or ejection jams.
I had to tweak every magazine to feed, i ended up turffing 2 mags because i could never get them to work (metal fal mags).
The ejection system would often get backed up with spent brass and required disassembly of the rifle to fix.
I didnt think it was a very balanced rifle.
Once i fixed the major issues i sold it.
I vote nay on this rifle
It was not an accurate gun even with hand loads. I couldnt consistantly keep groups under 3 inches.
Every ammo brand/ projectile required about 50 round down range to properly tune the gas system, failure to do so resulted in FTF or ejection jams.
I had to tweak every magazine to feed, i ended up turffing 2 mags because i could never get them to work (metal fal mags).
The ejection system would often get backed up with spent brass and required disassembly of the rifle to fix.
I didnt think it was a very balanced rifle.
Once i fixed the major issues i sold it.
I vote nay on this rifle
If you where not able tu tune the gas system with in 10 round, the problem is not the rifle... I usually take around 5 round to tune and btw that is tuning is done at the same time as re-zeroing the scope for the ammo so honestly I don't see what the big deal is?
Also if tuning the gas system is too demanding one could just overgasse the rifle by 4-6 clicks and it should run almost anything.
On the ejection, there is usually only 2 ejection problems. One is the extractor/lifter not properly holding the empty casing, now that would be if the extractor is broken witch is uncommon. Or the cassing are backing up in the chute, but that is a 20 second fix, just bending the tabs inwards.
I am not saying that this is the case but sometimes accuracy problem can be other things then the rifle: scope, mounting solution...
One last thing I do understand that all rifles are diffrent and it is possible you had a lemon.
LordEvilPepper
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Under a rusty barge in BC
Um no it takes over 50 rounds, if you fallow the instructions.
You start at B+40 clicks then keep turning it down 5 clicks at a time doing 1 round at a time, until it locks open. You repeat until the rifle fails to eject/feed. Then you increase by 1 at at time, until it fails to lock back, then decreade by two....
Then once the gun is warm you do it again, because it starts to over gas or under gas depending on the phase of the moon causing stopages or kicking like a mule, and we found when over gassed it ends ip bending the ejection chute. You need to re adjust every single range trip because ambient temps through it out.
These guns are POS for anyone that wants to run a gun 200+ rounds without having to trouble shoot...
You start at B+40 clicks then keep turning it down 5 clicks at a time doing 1 round at a time, until it locks open. You repeat until the rifle fails to eject/feed. Then you increase by 1 at at time, until it fails to lock back, then decreade by two....
Then once the gun is warm you do it again, because it starts to over gas or under gas depending on the phase of the moon causing stopages or kicking like a mule, and we found when over gassed it ends ip bending the ejection chute. You need to re adjust every single range trip because ambient temps through it out.
These guns are POS for anyone that wants to run a gun 200+ rounds without having to trouble shoot...
Potato boy
Regular
- Location
- North of the mountain
I had an RFB gen 2 great rifle, took some hogs with it, I set the gas system, took me 10 minutes and was good to go, it was 1.25-1.5 moa with hand loads and around 2 moa with factory, I did not have a single malfunction with keltec mags. 2 FAL mags from Epps gave constant problems, they saw the heal of my boot, problems solved
What? Are you mad??? Didn't you read the post a couple above yours?
It takes 50+ rounds, a portable weather station, a calculator, a ouija board and an engineering degree to adjust the gas system...and you need to do it every day.
Unless, of course, you want to blow up your rifle!!!
