To Shoot, or Not To Shoot?

:( Winchester.

I was propping-up the counter in the local on opening day; lotsa' guys in registering kills. One guy came in with a long frown and a clearly-new, clearly high-dollar rifle with matching SS scope and a sob story. He'd been out that morning, spotted his buck, drew down on it, pulled the trigger - the gun went 'click', the deer went " 'Bye!!!" and was in the next county before he could get a reload; he wanted the rifle troubleshot, hopefully by a professional gunsmith who was also a factory rep'. The guy behind the counter said almost exactly what I was thinking - "What's your ammo?"

"Winchester."

"Well there's yer problem, right there!" The guy left with a box of Hornady and a box of Federal. Somebody else at the counter passed-on his own Winchester horror story; he'd bought a box and three of them didn't have primers, the whole box was full of powder grains that'd spilled out of the flash holes.

You'd think they'd learn...
 
I've sent the brass back to Graywood, and they've promised to reimburse me. In the meantime I've ordered some once-fired IVI brass from Tradex. Hopefully this will be decent quality stuff, just involves a little more prep work.
 
I won't buy any Olin products. Bought Winchester Power Max 30-06. My factory rifle wouldn't chamber 3 rounds out of the box. Dented cases, bullet cores showing through the jacket in spots. Cost cutting to the point of zero QC and ammo with zero consistency to me isn't worth the savings.
 
K-C said:
I agree with Ganderite, this has to be the case.

I process much of the bulk brass for my club and most often deprime and wet tumble. I check each flash hole after drying for stuck S/S pins and never see anything more than the very occasional off-centre hole, usually in Norinco .223

If I were you, I would be contacting Winchester...
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I found that Aguila 223 has off-center flashholes. No enlarged, but def off center.
 
The older blue/white bagged Winchester I never had a problem with...
The new red/black bagged stuff has been very bad, if I'm lucky I only have to cull about 10% of them out of the bag lol.
I use PRVI or Norma now as much as possible, I'll check higginsons for 1f and see what they have on hand before buying​ new Winchester.
Using some Fiocci from Tradex in .243 and it's decent enough.
 
'Boo said:
Send those photos to Winchester. They should send you some new cases. DON'T shoot those as erratic pressures may result with the king--sized flash holes.
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Definitely good advice. Winchester should replace or refund you for your out of pocket expenses.
 
PMC not much better

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Download Irfanview below, it is a "free" image viewer that allows to resize your photos dimension size and reduce the kb size.

That "BIG" fugly hand above is way to big and needs Corn Huskers hand lotion and yomomma you need to stop rubbing ###### on the photos you post. :stirthepot2:

http://www.irfanview.com/

Below a compact P-51 :d

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