To use water/windex or not to clean after Surplus Ammo???

Do you use hot water/windex to clean when using Surplus Ammo?

  • oh yeah every single time!!

    Votes: 93 66.4%
  • no, never! i only use solvants+oil

    Votes: 31 22.1%
  • Steam.......?

    Votes: 5 3.6%
  • others, please specify

    Votes: 11 7.9%

  • Total voters
    140
wow you guys are insane....

I just oil it with CLP and trow her back in the case...

Still works like a charm....

I will clean it when it starts acting up on me.... so far 800+ rounds with no problems...
 
I just oil it with CLP and trow her back in the case...Still works like a charm....I will clean it when it starts acting up on me.... so far 800+ rounds with no problems...

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There ya go! If corrosively primed ammo was like kryptonite to firearms, no military organization would have ever approved corrosive ammo for service use.

Tuscon, how do you get CLP into the gastube/piston assembly?
 
Every couple range trips I'll wipe down the bolt carrier and slap some more motor oil on. Occasionally it gets a pullthrough with a boresnake.

These rifles aren't collectors items, I'm not going to waste my time going crazy on the cleaning.
 
Every couple range trips I'll wipe down the bolt carrier and slap some more motor oil on. Occasionally it gets a pullthrough with a boresnake.

These rifles aren't collectors items, I'm not going to waste my time going crazy on the cleaning.

They used to say that about $15 full wood Enfields...Now around $700+. :rolleyes:
 
Windex and Hoppes #9.

Me too!

Actually, I just use Hoppes in the barrel and have never seen a hint of rust. The label on the bottle says that it will remove corrosive fouling and I have no reason not to believe them.

I have had some problems with rusting in the gas tube (its not chrome lined like the barrel is). So what I do now is squirt Windex down the gas tube until it runs out the bottom, then I dry it out thoroughly. Then I clean it again with Hoppes. This is working fine for me.

I also wipe out the mouth and rim of the gas tap with a Hoppes soaked patch and I put a drop of oil on the rim of the gas tap that fits inside the gas tube. I have had rust show up quickly at this point but not any more using this procedure.
 
Anything that has a "water" base will work fine to nuetralize the corrosive primer residue. I took my '54 Tula out with me camping one time, and just squirted river water down the bore with a syringe, and wiped down everything else with a wet rag. Then, I just oiled and cleaned as per usual, with no rust issues.
I learned my lesson about the importance of cleaning immediately after shooting corrosive ammo, after a late evening shoot at the range soon after I got my rifle. I had to get up early for work, so I just put my SKS back in the locker, thinking I'll clean it after work. Imagine my dismay when I pulled it apart the next day, and saw a nice collar of rust on the gas piston, and on the inside of the gas tube. Also a spot on the bolt and carrier as well. 3 hours of frantic scrubbing and cursing myself brought her back to normal, and made me that much wiser.:bangHead:
Makes you wonder what kind of condition the AK47s are in after heavy usage in the Middle East....I bet they aren't diligent about cleaning at all....
 
Anything that has a "water" base will work fine to nuetralize the corrosive primer residue. I took my '54 Tula out with me camping one time, and just squirted river water down the bore with a syringe, and wiped down everything else with a wet rag. Then, I just oiled and cleaned as per usual, with no rust issues.

You cannot "neutralize" potassium chloride. Calling corrosive ammo "corrosive" is a misnomer. All you can hope to do is mechanically remove as many of the KCl molecules as you can.

The rest of this spiel is directed to the OP.

The absolute best method is lots and lots of BOILING SOAPY WATER. Bar none.

The soap will help breakdown the crud in the bore so you can start to access KCl underneath it. Boiling water dissolves s**t better than ice water, and the more you use, the more you can dissolve then flush away with new water.

If you can show me a better solvent for KCl I would love to know.

Windex isn't bad, I have used it in the past in a pinch. But torrents of boiling water beat measly squirts of room temperature water every time for dissolving/flushing away the most molecules.

Go to Home Depot/Crappy Tire/Store down the road and buy a funnel and some tubing. Make the device that has been illustrated here:

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and be done with it.

Makes you wonder what kind of condition the AK47s are in after heavy usage in the Middle East....I bet they aren't diligent about cleaning at all....

Think about the atmospheric water vapour levels in the middle east. Their bores are fine.

But take those rifles and bring them to BC, and the trace potassium chloride in the barrels and gas systems would pull that water out of the air and rust the crap outta them.
 
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Hey, I picked up that exact same type of funnel (for a Lee Enfield rifle) for $20 at a gun show last year. It's the cat's a$$ for flushing out the bore. I like using boiling water because it evaporates quickly as well...
 
I'm a big fan of automotive washer fluid. It rinses better than water, and dries much quicker. It is also a lot cheaper than windex, and I think works better
 
I just use break cleaner and Hoppe's # 9. I just make sure I clean right after I get home from the range. 800 rounds no rust, Works for me.
 
I used to employ the Windex method, now I use M-Pro 7; it seems to disolve any corrosive salts in bore from using the Czeck surplus ammo as well as helping to disolve any carbon buildup. I've only recently switched and so far so good.
 
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