Tokarev failure to feed 50% of time. weak spring?

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I have a polish surplus tokarev, brand new. cleaned it of all cosmoline, tried it at the range yesterday.
I get 50% failure to feed. slide does not close completely, I have to just manually give it a small push to close.

Is the spring weak or something? any ideas?
if so, where can I get a replacement spring?

thanks
 
Found this online, asked if they will ship to canada:

h ttp://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?page=items&cID=1&mID=68
whole set of springs, maybe the slide spring is weak after all those years?
 
Are you holding it with a weak grip? Shooting one handed? If you only have to nudge it closed, you may not be holding the gun firmly enough. A limp wrist can dampen the recoil enough to slow the slide enough to prevent it from closing all the way.
 
Is the magazine loose when inserted? Try pushing it up from the bottom while you shoot (the Tokarev is a one-handed pistol anyway). Also the mag. body or lips could be dented for feeding problems. Do you have another magazine to try?

The hammer assembly is integrated with the slide rails; perhaps the fit isn't good. Check and lube.

Maybe you have the recoil spring guide in upside-down; the flatter curve goes against the barrel.

Limp-wristing is a possibility.

Springs do not weaken from age, or being stored compressed
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Proper springs don't weaken like that; if a spring was not manufactured to specification and compressed normally, that could weaken it.
 
Generously oil all metal to metal moving parts. Wipe off excess. If it is a new gun it will be tight for the first 1000 rounds, then it will loosen up some.
 
When I took mine out the first time I managed one magazine before it started to do exactly like yours.

tigrr said:
Generously oil all metal to metal moving parts. Wipe off excess. If it is a new gun it will be tight for the first 1000 rounds, then it will loosen up some.
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Second time out I oiled it heavier than the first time, and it was better but still had feed issues about twice per magazine. It's been getting better each time I go out, 4 different magazines, Surplus Chech ammo from 53 or 54 I believe. I've put 250-300 rounds through it so far with not one failure to fire or failure to eject. One of the guys at the range suggested the same thing , oil it heavier and it's not a refurb but a basically a brand new pistool that needs to be broken in.
 
woobie said:
When I took mine out the first time I managed one magazine before it started to do exactly like yours.



Second time out I oiled it heavier than the first time, and it was better but still had feed issues about twice per magazine. It's been getting better each time I go out, 4 different magazines, Surplus Chech ammo from 53 or 54 I believe. I've put 250-300 rounds through it so far with not one failure to fire or failure to eject. One of the guys at the range suggested the same thing , oil it heavier and it's not a refurb but a basically a brand new pistool that needs to be broken in.
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I have had FTE and FTF with the silver colored bullets included in the crate of surplus czech ammo. Only 1 in 2500 in the rest. I would be checking the slide and frame rails for binding. These guns have so much power, my casings land anywhere from 10 to 20 feet away from the gun, so I can't see it being a spring issue. Even when I limp wrist the gun the casing flies a good distance.

One thing I did find is that the magazines have to be cleaned really well and lightly oiled.
 
wtf with the limp wrist, this is not a .22 ..... do I look like I am limp wristed?
Seriously, I will double check again, but it was properly cleaned and oiled.
 
My Russian has been very, very steady in feed and extraction with commie ball ammo.

I cleaned mine by soaking it in varsol and then lubed the rails with grease and oiled everything else down.

How does the recoil spring look? Maybe give it a stretch and try it again?
 
it looks quite strong actually. I cleaned mine in varsol also, greased the slides and oiled the rest...
checked it again tonight, seems okay.
Something must be jamming somewhere, because the spring is sure strong enough to get that bullet in.
Maybe it will break in, only fired 50 rounds or so through it.
 
Anyad Pitchaya said:
These guns have so much power, my casings land anywhere from 10 to 20 feet away from the gun, so I can't see it being a spring issue. Even when I limp wrist the gun the casing flies a good distance.
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It's not the power of the 7,62x25 round: I have one of the Sportowy .22 calibre conversion pistols, and using standard velocity .22LR in it, the casings are ejected clear across the room still. It's just designed with a really forceful ejector.

ztunelover said:
I have 200k rounds through mine
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tazik said:
200k :eek:) !!! Wow !!! 200 000 rounds in a gun is something !!!!
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(He's just busting TDC's balls on this.)
 
red_bailey said:
It's not the power of the 7,62x25 round: I have one of the Sportowy .22 calibre conversion pistols, and using standard velocity .22LR in it, the casings are ejected clear across the room still. It's just designed with a really forceful ejector.





(He's just busting TDC's balls on this.)
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You do realize that the ejector is stationary, and the force applied to the case rim by the ejector is a function of the recoil energy/slide velocity during the firing process.

TDC
 
I already have a glock, this is not the point of this thread. The tokarev is a piece of history, not a modern pistol I would use if my life depended on it. I still want it to work.
 
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