Tokarev TT33 any good for first gun?

I have a different perspective than most people here as I was shot by one during an armed robbery in our store several years ago. While I was trying to speed load my 590A1 with two masked robbers had their handguns pointed at my wife Dianne one of them ran towards me and shot wildly one round that went through a 3/4 inch plywood door, just missing a metal door frame, went through my left femur shattering it in a compound fracture just above the knee. The round went completely through me, through the interior wall behind me and lodged into a steel garbage can where the relatively intact bullet was found. No shell casing was ever found but I suspect the shooter limp wrist-ed and jammed the gun as I was not shot again as I laid on the floor trying not to bleed out. As a side note the other low life and the shooter ran out the front door and dropped his/her gun and left it there (44 mag. Ruger Black-hawk). I was just happy they didn't use the .44 mag.

I am surprised this type of gun is not more widely used due to it's compact concealable size and significant velocity. Probably because the gun isn't as "cool" looking and recognizable from TV and movies as other more modern guns. I have personally owned a few different examples and currently have one with an extra 9mm barrel. I also agree that in most situations I would not recommend this as a first handgun to learn on as most would be initially intimidated by the surprising intensity and sharp recoil. Phil.
 
We may be confusing gun with calibre here. 7.62x25 isn't the ideal beginner cartridge, but a Tokarev Sportowy .22 LR would be a fine beginner gun.
My 9mm Tokarev has a better trigger than my Glock 17, is more reliable, is cheaper, has a better grip for me, and can use cheap 7.62x25. The Tokarev is a good platform, and it comes in 22LR, 9mm and 7.62x25.
There do seem to be quality control issues with cheap communist gun, fair enough.
 
Juster said:
We may be confusing gun with calibre here. 7.62x25 isn't the ideal beginner cartridge, but a Tokarev Sportowy .22 LR would be a fine beginner gun.
My 9mm Tokarev has a better trigger than my Glock 17, is more reliable, is cheaper, has a better grip for me, and can use cheap 7.62x25. The Tokarev is a good platform, and it comes in 22LR, 9mm and 7.62x25.
There do seem to be quality control issues with cheap communist gun, fair enough.
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I’d say regardless of calibre it’s probably still not great as a first handgun, 7.62x25 just makes it worse. The lack of a safety, poor ergonomics, poor sights, and poor trigger (in general, as you and others have stated some have good triggers) on most guns still make it a less than ideal option for people to start on when there are much better options for the same or not that much more money.
 
Would a indoor range that doesnt accept steel core accept the steel cased russian surplus 7.62x25 stuff in spam cans? Kind of hesitant to buy a spam can since the lack of ability to use an indoor range kind of mutes the savings.
 
Juster said:
We may be confusing gun with calibre here. 7.62x25 isn't the ideal beginner cartridge, but a Tokarev Sportowy .22 LR would be a fine beginner gun.
My 9mm Tokarev has a better trigger than my Glock 17, is more reliable, is cheaper, has a better grip for me, and can use cheap 7.62x25. The Tokarev is a good platform, and it comes in 22LR, 9mm and 7.62x25.
There do seem to be quality control issues with cheap communist gun, fair enough.
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A Sportowy would be a terrible beginner's gun. Terrible gun for most any shooter. Because of the adapters into which the .22LR cartridges are loaded. More time will be spent reaching for the ejected units than shooting. There is no readily available supply of replacement adapters.
 
Parfa said:
Would a indoor range that doesnt accept steel core accept the steel cased russian surplus 7.62x25 stuff in spam cans? Kind of hesitant to buy a spam can since the lack of ability to use an indoor range kind of mutes the savings.
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How much of the surplus 7.62x25 ammunition - steel cased or brass cased - has a steel core in the bullet?You will want to know definitively about the ammunition you buy if you are planning on shooting on an indoor range.
 
Parfa said:
Would a indoor range that doesnt accept steel core accept the steel cased russian surplus 7.62x25 stuff in spam cans? Kind of hesitant to buy a spam can since the lack of ability to use an indoor range kind of mutes the savings.
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The two clubs that I belong to and another that I am a frequent guest of prohibit steel surplus ammo usage. Get caught get kicked out forever. I think that this is pretty much the policy 9/10 as the ammo beats up the range very badly.
 
Steel core projectiles would have no negative impact on backstops used on almost all outdoor ranges.
Steel cores and reactive steel targets are incompatible.
 
Turns out that the Russian 7.62x25 I was eyeballing at TradeEx is indeed steel core. If that's the case I think I'll go with 9mm for my first gun, thanks tiriaq and fdc.
 
tiriaq said:
Steel core projectiles would have no negative impact on backstops used on almost all outdoor ranges.
Steel cores and reactive steel targets are incompatible.
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I don't disagree with you but my my one club bans steel core ammo on all the ranges and it's not hard to understand why. There are steel targets outdoors and once the steel ammo is on site it has the potential to be used by mistake or on purpose so no steel core regardless of the back stop material. At the indoor ranges I have seen so much damage done with steel core ammo and members have to pay to fix it.
 
It is my first handgun, but only because I bought it with 2k round of lead core surplus in a $400 bundle.
In short, I learnt to shoot with tt-33, I learnt to shoot accurately with a browning buckmark.
 
Will these fit on the type 54? I have an un-issued type 54 on the way. Also I'm not sure if un-issued means new? Or it just sat in a bucket of cosmoline for 60 years.

Oops I see I messed this up. I was trying to comment on a message about tokegypt grips. I guess I'll try again.
 
BR427 said:
Get one or more, bulletproof. While not a Glock by any means, it's still a hard as nails Military pistol proven in years of real combat. It's also a piece of history.
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tokguy said:
Go online and get a set of Tokegypt grips for it...Norc used to put the Tokegypt out in 9 x 19 sporting these grips. 201C maybe
The simple upgrade in grips will eliminate half the problems listed previously IMO
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Will these grips fit on the type 54? I have an un-issued type 54 on the way. Also I'm not sure if un-issued means new? Or it just sat in a bucket of cosmoline for 60 years?
 
The grips will fit. I was excited until I actually tried a set. It didn't make the gun very comfortable to hold for me. I bought some custom beavertail grips from Hungary for my Polish TT. Such a beautiful gun now and no more bloody hands after shooting.
 
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