Tokarev TT33 Failures to eject

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Hey guys,

I have a 1942 TT33 That I bought two years ago. I brought it out shooting once when I just started shooting. I had many failures to feed. In retrospect, I was very green and had a limp wrist. I learned later that the extra inertia on the pistol from limp wristing could cause failures to eject. Brought it out about a month ago, nice newly manufactured ammo and a cleaning. Shot about 50 rounds with a nice firm grip. Problem persisted.

I'm not really interested in trouble shooting the damn thing, but here is my question:

Is it worth bringing the thing to a gunsmith to fix this issue? or am I better off just buying a new one that I know shoots?

Thanks!
 
Brass ammo cases for x25 are not plentiful, usually the ammo is copper washed or a dark green or grey lacquer.

Brass and lacquered cases are slipperier and don't get caught by the slide as much as copper wash does.
 
I had issues with mine not going all the way into battery once in a while when I first got it. I would have to smack the back of the slide a bit to get it to work. After reading a bit about it I found out that feeding issues are common in these things and there are known fixes. One thing is to polish the feed ramp. I've seen many reports of that working for failures to feed properly and it helped with a friend of mines as well. Replacing the recoil spring with a stiffer one is supposed to help. I bought one, I think from wolff, but never put it in because my feeding issues cleared up without it. There was a problem in my town as well where our local gun shop (the only local place to buy ammo for these) was selling incorrect ammo. They had 7.63x25 mauser I think or underpowered 7.62x25 Tokarev. Anyway the ammo would fail to eject sometimes and others would fail to feed completely, or fail to go into battery all the way while feeding. Another thing to check is caked on lacquer in the chamber. Someone more knowledgable than me will probably have more detailed answers but I went through the same problems and research a couple years ago when I got my gun.
 
Robert Nicholson said:
Brass ammo cases for x25 are not plentiful, usually the ammo is copper washed or a dark green or grey lacquer.

Brass and lacquered cases are slipperier and don't get caught by the slide as much as copper wash does.
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I put 50 of these through last shoot.
 
Lucas269 said:
I had issues with mine not going all the way into battery once in a while when I first got it. I would have to smack the back of the slide a bit to get it to work. After reading a bit about it I found out that feeding issues are common in these things and there are known fixes. One thing is to polish the feed ramp. I've seen many reports of that working for failures to feed properly and it helped with a friend of mines as well. Replacing the recoil spring with a stiffer one is supposed to help. I bought one, I think from wolff, but never put it in because my feeding issues cleared up without it. There was a problem in my town as well where our local gun shop (the only local place to buy ammo for these) was selling incorrect ammo. They had 7.63x25 mauser I think or underpowered 7.62x25 Tokarev. Anyway the ammo would fail to eject sometimes and others would fail to feed completely, or fail to go into battery all the way while feeding. Another thing to check is caked on lacquer in the chamber. Someone more knowledgable than me will probably have more detailed answers but I went through the same problems and research a couple years ago when I got my gun.
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Interesting. Thanks for the input. I could check the feed ramp for any caked on lacquer. not sure about the spring, i have nothing to compare it too.
 
This ammo is brass cased led core. Not surplus as some may think , but loaded to Czech BXN specks,
Many WW2 dated Tokarev pistols are crudely made, due to shortage of skilled laborers and time constraints of war production. These pistols require various degrees of hand fitting and polishing on slide, frame and hammer group to feed reliably. There is a sticky on sub forums for hand tuning Tok pistols. I have played with many TT33 pistols and I have a few of them. In my experience the ones that were excellent from the box are post war Russian Izhevsk ones and military Chinese type 54




2bore said:
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I put 50 of these through last shoot.
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Wow that's quite the TT collection. That's the info I'm looking for. I think I may purchase a post war model. Asking a gunsmith to fiddle with it may be more expensive than a new pistol...and I don't know what I'm doing wrt tinkering with a pistol
 
I had this problem. After a good cleaning, I'd make it through a mag, maybe a mag an a half before FTEs started. I replaced all of my springs with Wolff springs and that got me an extra half a mag before the FTEs started. Before bringing it to a smith, I replaced the extractor and extractor retaining pin. Bingo! Flawless feed, fire, extract, eject every time!
 
mchivien said:
I had this problem. After a good cleaning, I'd make it through a mag, maybe a mag an a half before FTEs started. I replaced all of my springs with Wolff springs and that got me an extra half a mag before the FTEs started. Before bringing it to a smith, I replaced the extractor and extractor retaining pin. Bingo! Flawless feed, fire, extract, eject every time!
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Were the old extractor and pin worn or binding somehow that you could see?
 
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