TOMAHAWK 2210 "Marine" Pump Action 12ga. x 3"

IMO you get what you pay for. I had a similar shotgun from Marstar, and it was OK, but nothing amazing. Worked allright but definatly had a cheap feel to it. If you're looking for a marine shotgun that will last for ever and be reliable I'd have a look at the Remington 870 Marine Magnum.
 
chevrolet_kelowna said:
How would this compare for $350.00 to the $800 marine mossberg.
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^keep in mind that the piece that fell off is just the heatshield - nothing really critical - and that these guys are total yahoos, so take it with a huge grain of salt. the only thing im concerned about in this vid is how poorly the gun is cycling.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261958&highlight=tomahawk
^review of the semi-auto tomahawk which at first glance seems similar to the Baikal Mp153. looking at the pics should give you an idea of the quality. a Baikal is a Russian made budget no-frills workhorse of a gun but the internals and machining are light years ahead of the Turkish gun.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365415&highlight=tomahawk

in comparison i can say that i have had absolutely no problems with my Chinese made DA Grizzly and quality seems to be good on their pump-actions.
if i were you i would save up a bit and buy an 870 or 500 - check the EE there are usually decent deals there.
 
the Power Assisted Pump Action looks neat.
i am considering one my self. i think if your looking for a shot gun that your not gunna cry over then this is a good place to start. + i think it is covered under the MARSTAR warranty.
any problems and they will help you.
 
Why don't you just save up and buy a gun that isn't hit and miss?

Saves you a lot of money and hassles down the road.
 
If you are the type of person who has to do things differently, and has to learn from his own mistakes, then fill yer boots.

It is simpler to stick with a proven platform.

If you're on a budget, I suggest the Norinco HP9-1, from Frontier or from Dark.
 
if you are really on a budget find an older 2 3/4" Wingmaster receiver for around $150 and build on that. with so many used guns on the EE there is no reason to compromise on quality just because you are on a budget.
 
Or one could just work harder and save more money and buy a real gun (870 MM).

When people say they're on a 'budget', I never really understand. Did you just happen upon $300 in your sock drawer? Is your money burning a hole in your pocket so badly that you have to spend it RIGHT NOW? Why don't you just save a little more to get something worthwhile? You'll be much happier once you have it.
 
ehh, you need to be realistic.
not every household can justify spending $800 on a frivolous zombie gun. in fact i just tried to imagine some of my more whipped friends trying to run a purchase like that by their wives and busted out laughing.
'honey, we really need this shiny silver short barreled shotgun. its special purpose!'

^it would end in them sleeping on the couch or in the garage :D
 
manbearpig said:
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^keep in mind that the piece that fell off is just the heatshield - nothing really critical - and that these guys are total yahoos, so take it with a huge grain of salt. the only thing im concerned about in this vid is how poorly the gun is cycling.

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Total yahoos or not,I would have the same opinion as them if it couldn't cycle properly or heat sheilds kept falling off it.
Hell ,I'd probably submit a video just like this one.considering the whole point ,for me anyways, of getting a pump over an autoloader is uber reliability.
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So If I tell you that MIGHT be able to save $800 for all my firearm spending in one year I should do that? No shooting anything else because I can't buy ammo while I'm saving. Or should I buy something a little more inexpensive (and most times cheaper) and have some money left over for ammo or reloading components or accessories? I bet if I start saving right now I may be able to afford a custom long range rifle in 10 years...that will be 10 real <sarcasm>FUN</sarcasm> years. Maybe ATRS will give me a free rifle because I'm poor. Or I could just find a cheaper interest and have one less firearms owner in the country trying to help the cause.

pazzo said:
When people say they're on a 'budget', I never really understand. Did you just happen upon $300 in your sock drawer? Is your money burning a hole in your pocket so badly that you have to spend it RIGHT NOW? Why don't you just save a little more to get something worthwhile? You'll be much happier once you have it.
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The marine magnum 870 is a huge rip off! All is is a nickel finish on a regular 870express. Save your cash for a 870 wingmaster or 870police they are the gems of the 870 lineup. Only if the marine magnum was built off the wingmaster would it be worth the big pricetag.
 
RocketBoy said:
So If I tell you that MIGHT be able to save $800 for all my firearm spending in one year I should do that? No shooting anything else because I can't buy ammo while I'm saving.
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no.
aside from the bling factor, an $800 marine magnum is not going to work any better, or be any more reliable, than a $300 870 express.

buy a non-nickel plated 870 and a ton of ammo and go shoot it and have fun.

in the $350 range you can buy a 12.5" Grizzly, a Grizzly mag, an Express, just about any Mossberg 500, etc.

as for your custom long range rifle -- again, you dont need to spend big bucks. just look at what mysticplayer has been doing with $300 Stevens actions.
 
I played around with one of these a while back when I was looking to get a pump shotgun.
I had a 590, 870, and 2201 to compare side by side.
I shot the 870 first and it functioned flawlessly with whatever I feed it. The same with the 590. As soon as I picked up the 2201 i was disappointed. It felt very lightly built, the action was not smooth at all. I did have issue with extracting of some rounds. IMO I would never own the gun. If you are working with a budget and are willing to accept the lower quality then it is ok. I'm sure you could work out some of the kinks that it had.

I ended going with the 870 Express Tactical as I found the build quality the best of the 3.

Tim
 
manbearpig said:
no.
aside from the bling factor, an $800 marine magnum is not going to work any better, or be any more reliable, than a $300 870 express.

buy a non-nickel plated 870 and a ton of ammo and go shoot it and have fun.

in the $350 range you can buy a 12.5" Grizzly, a Grizzly mag, an Express, just about any Mossberg 500, etc.

as for your custom long range rifle -- again, you dont need to spend big bucks. just look at what mysticplayer has been doing with $300 Stevens actions.
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I have a 12.5 Grizzly and I have a Stevens 200. I just don't understand the people "who don't understand" why not all of us can afford the better firearms of the world. I'd love a Tavor too but that will never happen. I never begrudge those that can afford the best but here are a whole lot of other things I can do with $3000. Maybe I'll meet a few of those guys on the range and at least I can try them. :)
 
RocketBoy said:
I have a 12.5 Grizzly and I have a Stevens 200. I just don't understand the people "who don't understand" why not all of us can afford the better firearms of the world. I'd love a Tavor too but that will never happen. I never begrudge those that can afford the best but here are a whole lot of other things I can do with $3000. Maybe I'll meet a few of those guys on the range and at least I can try them. :)
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If you looking to try an 870 let me know when you hit the range next. You can try mine. Its worth the extra $300 IMO, I had a hard time justifying it but just saved the extra money and am very pleased with mine.

Tim
 
The EE is your friend. If you are the type that absolutely has to have something brand new, then by all means go ahead and buy new. Someone has to take the leap and support the dealers/wholesalers that import these firearms into the country for us. Half my firearms have been purchased new by me and the other half used. Remember that after you shoot your "new" gun a few times it is no different than any of the used ones for sale right here in the EE! You have to decide if it's worth taking a small risk on an unseen firearm vs. buying one new in store to save hundreds of $$$.

IMHO it makes more economic sense to search out the "deals" on lightly used guns you want that are already modified with parts you would spend money on anyways.

As an example I just picked up a very lightly used Mossberg 590 marine magnum equipped with a Knoxx Spec Ops stock and saved probably $300-$400... and it's 10 times the shotgun a Tomahawk 2210 is.

YPMMV.
 
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