Tonights unnerving find

No gut pile though let alone three, just the heads and 1 carcass dumped, CO's say it isn't right but nothing they can do really,with out catching someone in the act especially. Someone just pulled over and threw the 4 items right there.

Guess it happens every year all over.


Ardent said:
I'm with you, I have an "unskinned head and gut pile" in my field right now, my own. If you're hunting for meat, why on earth would you skin out the head? I skin back to front, and pull the skin up as I go, ultimately cutting the head off attached to the skin, and disposing of it and the lower legs where the critters will make use of it. Sounds like this might be the case. No harm no fowl, though I can't judge on their chosen site. None of it will go to waste, that's for sure.
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Guts only last hours, mine were gone by the time the sun rose, and they were put out there at about 10pm. They're the first things to be eaten, the scavengers favorites right behind the eyes.

I'm still lost to understand where the tragedy is in all this, do you do a lot of hunting Kelly? Reason I ask is this is completely normal, nothing's wasted unless we're talking whole animals shot and dumped but it sounds just like heads, legs, bones and hide. Only thing I can't judge is the disposal site.
 
There was a complete carcass , and three heads and that is it, no evidence of it being gutted.No foot prints even in the snow.It wasn't a field dressing site. I have hunted many years. I know when there is a gut pile there and I frequent the area as it's my parking area when I go to my stand I would have seen something in the morning, so this was over night.

If there was boned out remains unattached legs and such and three heads with the remains of three processed animals, maybe some hides, then I wouldn't even have bothered looking twice. Maybe I wasn't clear on my findings.

I'll try sum it up in detail better.

Literally 24" off the road. At entrance to a well traveled gravel pit.

1 mature buck head,cut out antlers ,head cut from body
1 mid aged buck head ,cut out antlers ,head cut from body
1 spiker buck head cut from body , antlers still attached.
1 complete carcass, no evidence of processing , but hide removed. all legs still attached.

No other legs, bones, hides , or gut piles. Next day things were a bit more picked over but still all was there.

So, what does it sound like to you guys?

Like I said , if processed bones and hides were present I wouldn't have looked twice, would have just said someone was lazy.
 
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I actually feel bad if I don't return the hide, head bones etc back to the general area where I shot the deer. I feel as if I am stealing from nature. I will take the meat. Mother nature can have the rest. It was was her's to begin with.
 
Stuff like this doesn't bother me..drive 5 miles up the road and you'll find another dead one from a car...big deal.
 
I'll bet the area farmers/ranchers are glad these hunters at least had the decency to dump the carcass/skulls in a gravel pit rather then the hay field they were shot in (providing of course they were shot in an agricultural field). Nothing more aggravating then running a bone pile through the haybine, well maybe a skunk or racoon but that's a different matter all together.
 
"Okay, guys, we got our three deer, gutted them out in the field where we shot'em, and dragged 'em back here to the truck. Let's keep these two nice racks...that little one isn't worth the trouble to cut off. Now whack those heads off the carcasses...no need to slug around that extra weight.

"Whoa...this one that sat out overnight before we found him doesn't look/smell too good. Maybe we better just take the hide but forget about the meat on that one....I don't want to take a chance on eating it. We'll leave the hides on the other two that we're taking with us...it'll keep the meat cleaner until we get'em home to skin'em.

"We're slobs, so let's not bother dragging all this crap back into the bush...leave it here, give somebody something to worry about...ha ha..."


Just a possible scenario. You say that the heads were cut off incorrectly? Maybe they were just lousy at butchering their game and did a half-assed job. We have left one carcass in the bush for just this reason, finding it way too late to consider eating it, but we still took the hide off so the guy could turn it in to the Ministry for a hat.

Don't get defensive...I'm just offering up an alternative idea here. I still think that this is the simplest explanation...and therefore the most likely one.
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
I'll try sum it up in detail better.

Literally 24" off the road. At entrance to a well traveled gravel pit.

1 mature buck head,cut out antlers ,head cut from body
1 mid aged buck head ,cut out antlers ,head cut from body
1 spiker buck head cut from body , antlers still attached.
1 complete carcass, no evidence of processing , but hide removed. all legs still attached.
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Unless you inspected the whole carcass you are assuming it was fit to eat in the first place. I've shot deer that had been wounded previously and were rotting or festering...not fit to eat.
If it were poached or otherwise illegally dumped, they wouldn't have bothered to skin the deer first.
 
IMHO the three tags are the stupidest set up I have ever seen. In any kind of bad weather they are a major PITA. If you have to carry the animal out of the brush they are easily torn off. ( In theory they are supposed to be attached at the kill site )

One tag or 20 tags will not stop anyone from cheating. If the CO's are truly concerned they will be out there checking. In all fairness they are terribly understaffed IMO. I have faithfully tagged my animals ever since I have hunted and during the last 35 years I have been stopped and have had my animal inspected exactly ZERO times.

One tag with a string is more than ample. Cheaters will always cheat so why make life a PITA for us law abiding hunters with retarded triple stickers.
 
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