too protective of the pet grouse?

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I live in the bush of northern ontario and have (had) about 10 ruffies flying around my property. My entire family including 2 young kids enjoys seeing these birds in our yard and they run after each other - its quite comical.
I am an active hunter and have hunted often with my neighbour.
My neighbour shot at least 7 of these birds, so I called him and pissed in his breakfast cereal. I think these birds are much more enjoyable in the back yard then on his plate, and let him no in no uncertain terms.
He thinks I overreacted and I think he's an ignorant ass.
Opinions? Doctor Phil?
 
Republic of Alberta said:
Your the one in the wrong, mind your own buisiness.
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Read his post they are flying around HIS property, he doesn't want them killed.

You come on my property and kill some thing you will find out just how wrong you are!!

He has the right to enjoy whatever wildlife is on HIS property in any way which is legal.

NO ONE has the right to come on to private property and hunt.

That's why it is called private property.

What exactly do you see as wrong?

KTK
 
If he shot them on your property then you have the right to "talk" to him about it. However, if they were on his property or on any land he has the legal right to hunt on, then you can't do anything about it, and you should not. It's none of your concern or buisness. In any case, aproaching him with respect would have been the smartest thing to have done, because once you start a yelling match, everything goes down hill from there on. Your best bet now is to offer an apology before bad feelings get worst.
 
Private property does not apply to game

I will absolutely agree that any man has the right to his property and to determine who can or cannot hunt on it. However, wild game is not the property of the landowner and belongs to all of us. If the birds move off of his property and are in a legal hunting zone they are fair game. I am sick and tired of seeing property getting posted for the purpose of people keeping public game to themselves. Its getting to the point you have to be an F'ing British lord to hunt.:mad:
 
I know how you feel. We've got a cabin with an old apple orchard out back, and when I was young I always figured we should just go out and blast the grouse that came in to hit the trees. Now that I'm a bit older though, I'd rather keep the little buggers around. I take the odd rabbit from the cabin, but as for the grouse, I just use them for flushing practice for the lab from time to time.
 
Well you should have done like out here in BC and simply started a logging company on your property, and put up a gate with a no trespass sign...be sure to give only your employees, and friends the keys. :rolleyes: :mad: (true story).

http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=7238

Sorry I digress...
Well a good neighbour and responsible hunter would have asked you before hunting on your property...so IMHO you are right to call him on his disrespect of your property.
 
Lookout, I've been up in your area working, I think it was pricky considering there are more than enough birds all over the place up there, he didn't have to poke the ones in your yard.

Cripes, I filled my limit once with just a 5 minute drive on the gravel road once you get past Hudson and the mill.
 
It sounds like you want the best of both worlds. To make those wild birds your pet. It is okay to shoot a grouse on someone elses land but not yours.
You have admitted hunting with your buddy, now he shoots grouse that you claim are yours because they are pretty to look at. All the tree huggers in the city think that way, why do you think we as Hunters have a bad rap?
What do you only hunt the ugly grouse?
 
wow dr phil and oprah are truly at work here, but I asked for it.
my neighbour and I get along and still do but I was genuinely upset that he still shot the birds after being asked to leave them for the kids to enjoy. Of course he can shoot them, but civility suggests that he drive the 5 minutes away that Maddog mentioned and shoot other birds.
its not about ownership, its simply about not ####ting in your own backyard.
 
Points taken

I completely understand the need for mutual respect and sevility between friends. This issue has simply brought up an issue I am very concerned with. The exclusion of non landowners from hunting areas is one of the reasons I have not hunted for the last couple of years. This year I am trying to get back into it and found out that a huge piece of crown land I always hunted has been given to band and they have posted it in order to exclusively guide americans and the rest of us were told to take a hike. All I want is a bloody place to take my kids hunting were we stand a microscopic chance of success.

Between tree hugger land owners, greedy people who keep game for themselves or set up exclusive rights with outfitters leave poor working guys like me holding the sh**t end of the stick every time. Maybe I'll hit the 649 and join them.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
a nice talk can sweeten up the things. << hey Joe, I wanted to ask you something, Those birds that my folks like so much, please don't shoot them, they bring joy in my back yard.... next time I'll go out, I'll get you some from my own,,,,, or better yet, we'll go together >>

is this sound enough?
 
I grew up north of Edmonton and we used to get weekend warriors coming up all the time doing this same sort of thing, plus a few jackass neighbours.

Some of my fondest memories of my father were watching him freak out on "hunters" that would shoot animals off the road right by our house.

The rule was that you could never kill anything that you could see from the house. We always had deer, grouse and the odd moose in the yard, but they where strictly off limits. (coyotes... now that was different story)

I don't think you are out of line to be p;ssed off at all. There's grouse everywhere, your neighbour should quit being so lazy and not feel entitled to kill everything.
 
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