Torn between rimfire pistols -- Buckmark; PPQ; 22A Talo; Mark III Target

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I have a PPX which I more or less enjoy, especially for its price and intended purpose as a non-competition range toy.

I would like to get a rimfire handgun for cheap practice though. 10y gong, 15y paper, 25y paper.

Candidates:
  • Smith Wesson 22A Talo Edition (With thick target grips)
  • Ruger Mark III Target with target grips
  • Walther PPQ in .22 LR
  • Buckmark URX
The 22A is probably the best "deal" as it comes with three magazines and looks pretty darn nice. However I fear underneath it all it's still a 22A which (perhaps unjustly?) struck me as being cheap. It's ambi friendly.

The Mark III is a classic .22 but I don't really love the Nambu styling and the grip angle is kind of far away from the PPX. Not ambi friendly. Hard to clean.

The PPQ would be a nice trainer and is ambi friendly but it seems like a waste to use up a spot in my gun case for another black / polymer handgun. Ambi friendly. Hard to get magazines for though.

Oddly the Buckmark is most expensive (since it only comes with 1 magazine). Rubber URX grips could be nice? Hard to clean. Seems to be the prime candidate by virtue of doing everything sort of well but not excelling at anything. Not ambi friendly.

Opinions?
 
One of those will last forever.....Ruger.
One may not work right out of the box or ever....Walther.
The 22a is a pig in lipstick.
The Browning is pretty solid, but one step below the Ruger for durability.
The grip angle on the Ruger MK is a proper one hand target style grip. If your goal is target shooting then it's the one. It's also the most durable and reliable, easiest to get mags and parts for, and easiest to upgrade the trigger on.
 
Was the Walther PPQ the one that has a slide made of pot metal and has reported issues with slide cracking?

I only own a MKIII and I'm happy with it. Haven't handled the others.

For the grip angle, what about a MKIII 22/45?
 
sub40 said:
I have a PPX which I more or less enjoy, especially for its price and intended purpose as a non-competition range toy.

I would like to get a rimfire handgun for cheap practice though. 10y gong, 15y paper, 25y paper.

Candidates:
  • Smith Wesson 22A Talo Edition (With thick target grips)
  • Ruger Mark III Target with target grips
  • Walther PPQ in .22 LR
  • Buckmark URX
The 22A is probably the best "deal" as it comes with three magazines and looks pretty darn nice. However I fear underneath it all it's still a 22A which (perhaps unjustly?) struck me as being cheap. It's ambi friendly.

The Mark III is a classic .22 but I don't really love the Nambu styling and the grip angle is kind of far away from the PPX. Not ambi friendly. Hard to clean.

The PPQ would be a nice trainer and is ambi friendly but it seems like a waste to use up a spot in my gun case for another black / polymer handgun. Ambi friendly. Hard to get magazines for though.

Oddly the Buckmark is most expensive (since it only comes with 1 magazine). Rubber URX grips could be nice? Hard to clean. Seems to be the prime candidate by virtue of doing everything sort of well but not excelling at anything. Not ambi friendly.

Opinions?
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The Buckmark is much easier to take down and clean than the Ruger and does not get as dirty with a better trigger out of the box IMHO
The Smith is a capable plinker and very reliable but behind both of the above
The Walther has a spotty quality career from what I'm told and have never had nor shot one
 
I have a 22a 1 with after market wooden grips and a buckmark practical urx. The smith is very easy to take down I have not taken the buckmark apart I just clean it with the slide open. The urx grips are very nice and the practical model has a fiber optic front sight which I like. I like them both, as you probably know the smith is being discontinued.
 
silverfoxdj said:
The Buckmark is much easier to take down and clean than the Ruger and does not get as dirty with a better trigger out of the box IMHO
The Smith is a capable plinker and very reliable but behind both of the above
The Walther has a spotty quality career from what I'm told and have never had nor shot one
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Good and accurate review of the guns mentioned.
 
Unagi604 said:
Was the Walther PPQ the one that has a slide made of pot metal and has reported issues with slide cracking?
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That was the P22 ... the PPQ is much better reviewed.

Thanks for the opinions everyone.
 
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I'm looking at the same. I'm leaning towards the Buckmark or Mark III as I have had earlier versions of both, and they were excellent. Both are updates on timeless designs.

The 22A is being discontinued, so parts or accessories may be spotty in future. That equals a pass for me..Zm

I have a PPQ 9mm and love it. That said, I've heard NOTHING good about the .22 version.
 
It seems to me that I hear of far more issues with .22 versions of modern 9mm polymer guns.

I'd stick with the Ruger or the Browning. Both are good choices and proven designs so it's probably a matter of personal taste more than anything.
 
I got a 22/45 and a S&W 22A1. I like the feel of the S&W 22A1 over the thinner grips of the 22/45. But I like the aftermarket support of the Ruger, even tho their quality control is lacking on newer ones. I wish I got the model 22/45 with changeable grips.
 
i can only speak to the ruger and browning as those are what i have.
both are super nice guns to shoot.

if i had to pick one and only one it would be the browning.
couple reasons - easy of cleaning over the ruger, like the rubber grips, came with everything already on it i wanted (fiber optics, rubber grips) where as my ruger i had to pay over $100 to add those on.

at the end of the day both are great guns.
22a my dad picked up one of the fancy ones, he loves it, bloody thing is massive in the hands, easily 1/2 again as thick at the buckmark.
think i have a pic of it somewhere.... ill go look
 
S&W 22a vs Browning thickness

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I have a Ruger 22/45 lite and my buddy has a mark III... great accurate solid and reliable. Can't go wrong with one of these! They will shoot pretty much any ammo you throw in them.
 
Ruger Mark 3.
Excellent gun all around.
A PITA to disassemble and reassemble at the beginning but after 3 or 4 times, you'll get the hang of it.

Gilbert
 
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