Totally new, looking for a pump rifle.

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I know nothing about air rifles, just a disclaimer.

I'd like the best happy medium between price and reliability.

I'm just wondering if any of the typcial Canadian Tire offerings are worth buying.

I don't necessarily want a pellet gun, BB's are fine with me. I just don't want something that I'm going to shoot a half dozen times and have the thing crap out on me.

I've only ever owned one air rifle. It was a Canadian tire Daisy, I believe. It shot pellets and BBs and I liked it because it was very quick between shots. It had a little reservoir for about 50 BB's (or so), and you've just pump the rifle, then #### the side handle thinggy (the action). It had a magnet on the "bolt" that the BB stuck to as it entered the breech.

Anyone know what this was, and if there are any similar guns that are well built?

I'm also wondering if there is such a thing as a 10/22 of air rifles in this cheap range. Something with a big aftermarket and modding community, or a gun that can be pushed higher in terms of FPS (so I can max it out over 500FPS when the LGR is gone)...

I won't be using this rifle for anything other than shooting crap in my basement or back yard. I just hate to buy a lemon. Thanks!!!
 
Also, is there such a thing as a gun you only need to pump once or twice between shots? Im not crazy about 6 pumps between shots. I've seen some videos on youtube and damn, I don't think that's much fun.
 
I know it's not a pump but a friend just picked up the Ruger Blackhawk break barrel rifle and I was amazed at how solid it felt and how well it shot. It's not too expensive either, might fit your needs.
 
I've had a Crossman AIR17 for 20 years or more. Still running strong.
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Single Pump for each shot
BB (with resevoir) or Pellet
.177 caliber
"Magazine" doubles as extra storage for BB's or Pellets, as does the butt stock

That I know of, it is not "upgradable" to over 500 fps

No idea if they still make them or not, but a guick google search showed some used ones for sale.

I've got a few of the old crack barrel pellet guns - in .177 & .22 ... they are good fun as well.
 
Are you stuck on CTire as your source?

Take a look at the Daisy target guns, for a step up in quality. They are single stroke pneumatic actions, wood stocks, and decent sights. Also priced a fair bit higher than the CTire stuff, but... The 953 is the budget model, the 853C model gets you a wood stock, and target sights. The downside of the Daisy guns is the modders have not really got anywhere with them.

D&L Airguns site is worth a look through.

Most of the Crosman pneumatic (as opposed to spring piston, or CO2) air arms are multi-pump. You can shoot them at lower velocities with a single or two pumps, and they work OK.
These days, the Crosman guns amount to being the 10-22 of the airgun world. They built a lot of their new designs off the parts rack from previous models, so a lot of the CO2 gun parts used on the current 2240 model, interchange back to models from the 1950's, and the parts for their pneumatic guns like the 2289 or the 760, will swap around with guns dating back even further. You can pound a LOT of money into aftermarket parts for them! You can build pretty much whatever you need out of factory parts, too.
There is a huge modding community online, too, so lots of info is available.

Cheers
Trev
 
I love pumpers, no kick like a spring gun, just a snap of air. I don't mind pumping to much, I shoot to relax, pumping gives me time to think ;)

If you don't want to pump, I recommenced a springer, they take a bit of getting used to before you are get good with them, but once you get the hold down they are just as good as a pump. You will get more shots off with a springer, you just crack, load and shoot.

Before you buy compare prices at various stores, I find CT prices a bit high. As mentioned check D&L, closer to you shipping wise is Scopes and Ammo (I have dealt with Eric a few times, he is great to deal with. Also a great source for custom parts and Crosman parts) and Airgun Source. All have good pricing.

As mentioned, the Crosman guns are the 10/22 of airguns. It is like Lego, you can build what ever you want. Crosman makes it easy to work on their guns as they make parts readily available to the public.

Lots of info at the Canadian Airgun Forum.
 
As mentioned elsewhere here, a Crosman 1377 or 2289 is the 10/22 of airguns. First mod should be a steel breech kit. I'd join or at least browse the Canadian Airgun Forum and google Scopes and Ammo. Scopes and Ammo has refurbished 1377s on right now for $48.99. He also has lots of mod parts like flat top pistons, and so on.

Keep in mind, there are not BB guns, but they are solid airguns with tons of mods and online resources available and can be quite a hobby unto themselves.
 
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As mentioned elsewhere here, a Crosman 1377 or 2289 is the 10/22 of airguns. First mod should be a steel breech kit. I'd join or at least browse the Canadian Airgun Forum and google Scopes and Ammo. Scopes and Ammo has refurbished 1377s on right now for $48.99. He also has lots of mod parts like flat top pistons, and so on.

Keep in mind, there are not BB guns, but they are solid airguns with tons of mods and online resources available and can be quite a hobby unto themselves.
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I'm buying a 1377 after seeing this

any idea what are a few good cheap upgrades i should also include in this initial order
 
The Ruger Blackhawk, and its wood-stocked twin the Airhawk, are Diana 34 clones and can be modified using most of the parts available for the 34. They generally come with a servicable 4x scope. I'm getting a Vortek tuning kit for mine, which should get me 12fpe, or about 900fps with regular pellets.

The IZH-60 and 61 are side levers that are supposed to be pretty accurate. The 61 takes 5-shot clips to make reloading easier and follow-up shots quicker. I don't know how modable they are. I think airgunsource.com stocks the IZH and the Ruger.

The Daisy 953/853C are nice, too. Cadets train with the 853C exclusively, so they have to be reasonably accurate. I hear the triggers aren't that great, but can be improved.

I'd stick with pellets for basement shooting. Less chance of shooting your eye out.
 
The 10/22 of the airgun world is not a 1377, it's a 2240. (CO2, .22cal. pistol) Loads of aftermarket goodies for this gun, including a 1399 plastic stock, steel breech, longer barrel, custom wood grips, you name it. Even aftermarket, larger CO2 tank options.

Having said that, it is CO2...which can be annoying. :)

The gun you're describing sounds like a Crosman 760. The first airgun I ever used, the only air gun I've ever been shot by. (through my big toe nail, my buddy was tapping me on the leg with the muzzle, finger was on the trigger=ouch) It pumped-up to about 10 times, but would shoot with as few as 3 pumps. Same goes for the 1377/1322 pistols.

I don't think spring-piston guns are good recommendations unless you plan on using iron sights, scopes for them need to be airgun-rated. Expect to pay around $125-$150 for a 1/2 decent one. Big magnum springers will dwarf any .22lr rifle in terms of weight, size, and price...so I feel no temptation to own one. If you want easy of shooting, no CO2, are content with sub-500fps (no PAL req.) then the Daisy 853/953 are good options. The 853 is crazy accurate. They are what are called "single-stroke-pneumatics", zero recoil, one cocking stroke of the lever, etc.
 
BTW, Crosman still makes the 760...virtually unchanged if you're feeling nostalgic. D&L is also a great place to shop, I've dealt with them a number of times.
 
check out www.airgunforum.ca i think they are just what u r looking for. tons of air gun info and mods. have a bunch of dealers on the site to. Give it a try I don't think u will be disappointed.
 
I've only ever owned one air rifle. It was a Canadian tire Daisy, I believe. It shot pellets and BBs and I liked it because it was very quick between shots. It had a little reservoir for about 50 BB's (or so), and you've just pump the rifle, then #### the side handle thinggy (the action). It had a magnet on the "bolt" that the BB stuck to as it entered the breech.

Anyone know what this was, and if there are any similar guns that are well built?
Sounds like a Daisy 840. Mine is over 30 years old and still going strong, "custom" stock and hacksawed barrel notwithstanding. Kids love it.

+1 on the 1377....2289s I believe are no longer being made...Scopesandammo.com has a few left in stock.
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