Tough Targets
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Used to see lots of that just on regular targets in winter once the temps plummeted. Of course a soft landing in the snow kept them from breaking apart on contact with the ground but it’s summer and that WF Bio still held together even after hitting the ground?!!
I don't think there is any doubt the bio's are harder to break. However 4, almost 5, of the hits are in the center part of the target. This area provides little if any structural integrity to the target. You could cut out the center section and the target would not fall apart. There was 1, arguably 2, widely separated hits on the throwing rim which is where the strength is. Frustrating never the less. I have picked up an unbroken bio with 8 hits, most in the center section.
Clearly, that is all that's standing between me and a perfect round. <grin>
Silver Willow actually has Nerf birds. (Used for parade float, but I wouldn't put it past Josh to load up a case of them some day when he's bored.)
Silver Willow actually has Nerf birds. (Used for parade float, but I wouldn't put it past Josh to load up a case of them some day when he's bored.)
Energy is of little use unless it is expended on the target and these all appear to have passed through. Now the larger cross section of a 7 1/2 should make a difference. Softer shot may help but then there wouldn't likely be as many on target. I suspect this bird is an unlikely freak, but I copied the picture and I'm sure as heck going to use it as an excuse.
Rob!
bdft
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I have shot biodegradeable targets at the BC Provincials and they are definitely harder to break. A bit frustrating but everyone gets the same target. I think scores were generally lower. I know mine was so I blame the targets.
You could try some sand paper traction tape on the arm and get more spin on the targets.
The rotation of the target is really what makes it break.
Could sand the arm as well make sure its not slipping.
Was that shot on the skeet field or on a sporting clays course / 5 stand. Long looper or something?
The rotation of the target is really what makes it break.
Could sand the arm as well make sure its not slipping.
Was that shot on the skeet field or on a sporting clays course / 5 stand. Long looper or something?
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Falconflyer
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If the shot doesn't crack the target then more rotational spin won't make it break any better, once the crack is started then centrifugal force created by rotation will cause the target to come apart. I think these bio targets are too soft and that's why they will get holed but not cracked, especially by smaller shot. I would only use 7.5 shot for the best chance of getting a crack started in these.
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I guess if they're throwing bios, we need to go one choke tighter and use our good eye.
Hahaha!! Yup!!
For those interested, there is a 2010 book written by Dr. A C Jones. Took him 7 years of extensive testing and compiling data related to shotguns to produce the book. One interesting observation related to rotational spin, is that because of spin you cannot tell where you hit the target. You may have hit it at the rear edge of its flight but because of its spin, it may actually appear that pieces came off the front. Jones used high speed photography to determine where a hit was actually made and compared this to observations made by experienced shooters. Conclusion, the "experts" telling you the target was hit at the back or front is simply a guess and the human observations were wrong as many times as they were right.
White Flyer Bios have been known as a tougher to break target for many years. Fact is, the breaks are variable, not predictable, making it a very poor choice for competition.
White Flyer has a new Eco target that supposedly solves the problem - non-toxic and more consistent with standard pitch target breaks.
White Flyer has a new Eco target that supposedly solves the problem - non-toxic and more consistent with standard pitch target breaks.
Here are some clays shot at 35 yards Winchester super targets 8s 1 1/8. Multiple strikes on most of them with the most being 8 hits and only a slight crack. Some pellets hit so hard the lead splashed. Targets where hung on a fence IC choke. Of the 5 targets shot only one was broken. Without rotation it is very difficult to break a target.
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Falconflyer
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I just googled his name and came up with a book called "Sporting Shotgun Performance", presumably this is the one your talking about. Amazon has them for $72.50, looks like a good read!
Spank, sounds like lots of video footage although in the book it will all be still's.
Falconflyer
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Looks like you need to tighten up the choke a bit Jimmy! Your point is not missed though.
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