Trading a 270 for the 7mm-08

philthygeezer said:
What could be bad about a 6.8x62mm? Good balance between bullet weight and SD, good velocity without undue recoil, good to great accuracy. Flat, hard-hitting and good on the shoulder. I thought mono-metal bullets should only make the cartridge more useful. I thought the long range shooters might adopt it as a good compromise between barrel life and recoil. Not enough match brass or bullets?
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6.5 and 7mm have a better selection of heavy for caliber bullets. And the twist rates offered in factory rifles is on the slow side.
 
9.3mauser said:
What loads are you using in the .270? You should be able to get 3000 fps with a 140 gr. bullet. Same bullet weight in 7-08 would be 2800 give or take.
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Should be able to do better then 2800. My supergrade does 2906 without issues and could go hotter. Heck my tikka does 2675 with 162 eldx and could go a little warmer.
 
These discussions are useful and often amusing.

Here we talk about how the 7mm-08 is the equal of the 270, yet in other threads the 7mm-08 is described as a "Starter or Girl's Gun" and the 270 as more than adequate for anything up to long-range Moose.

Truth is, for any given bullet weight and at the same pressure, the 270 will outdo the 7mm-08 by about 100 fps.
 
Andy said:
These discussions are useful and often amusing.

Here we talk about how the 7mm-08 is the equal of the 270, yet in other threads the 7mm-08 is described as a "Starter or Girl's Gun" and the 270 as more than adequate for anything up to long-range Moose.

Truth is, for any given bullet weight and at the same pressure, the 270 will outdo the 7mm-08 by about 100 fps.
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I find the 7mm-08 to have noticeably less recoil
 
I load for both.

7-08 is a bit more efficient, meaning , better performance based on powder usage and recoil.

7-08's like 140's.
270 like 130's.

When loaded for accuracy their ballistics with those two above mentioned bullet weights will be not even worth taking about.

Let the chronograph and the results on paper do the talking for load development and for on game performance let the sausage speak for itself.

Mind you most folks are right, big game animals typically walk off a boiler room shot from a 7-08.

Down to meat and potatoes , I have found the 7-08 to be able to touch just above 2900 ft with 140's , no pressure signs and good accuracy, the .270 just above 3000 ft with 130's and no pressure signs and good accuracy.Would a deer , -moose or elk walk either of those off?

I CAN HOWEVER say the 08 will tune down to accuracy a bit better.

Some rifles just tune easier than others.
 
dan belisle said:
Which means absolutely squat to a game animal. Go with whatever makes you feel good when you use it. - dan
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I think that's it right there. I really like the 7mm-08 on the fact that it's a great round to reload. A huge selection of bullets between 120 and 175 grains and quite a few choices beyond. If I was relying on factory ammo I would not be so enamoured with it.
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
I load for both.

7-08 is a bit more efficient, meaning , better performance based on powder usage and recoil.

7-08's like 140's.
270 like 130's.

When loaded for accuracy their ballistics with those two above mentioned bullet weights will be not even worth taking about.

Let the chronograph and the results on paper do the talking for load development and for on game performance let the sausage speak for itself.

Mind you most folks are right, big game animals typically walk off a boiler room shot from a 7-08.

Down to meat and potatoes , I have found the 7-08 to be able to touch just above 2900 ft with 140's , no pressure signs and good accuracy, the .270 just above 3000 ft with 130's and no pressure signs and good accuracy.Would a deer , -moose or elk walk either of those off?

I CAN HOWEVER say the 08 will tune down to accuracy a bit better.

Some rifles just tune easier than others.
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I've only been hand loading for a few years and have limited time due to trying to raise three kids and work a full time job, but my observations are the exact same as yours. The difference being that I've only loaded for these two rifles. I also have a buddy who loads a lot for a couple 7mm's and find he can also achieve good results fairly easily also.
 
I have a few 7's....
7-08, 7x57, 270Win, 7RM.
If I was going to ditch one of those, it would be the 7-08. It's a fine cartridge with bullets under 150gr, above that things aren't moving very fast. I'm not recoil sensitive so the mild recoil isn't here nor there for me. The 7x57 can crush it and still push the 150-175gr pills to reasonable velocity (modern Zastava rifle which can digest hotter loads).
 
hth asked the question , , , what load are you using?

When I want to use heavier bullets in my 270 the accuracy load from Nosler for the 150 grain bullet was put together and immediately produced 3shot groups at 200 meters that were under 2".

So you got a good 7mm08 but you have to tell us what your 270 load is and how much experimenting you have done otherwise you are asking us to compare Pocahontas to Elizabeth Warren!

I had a 270 and currently my go to rifle is a Remington 700 BDL SS in 280 Rem. My load with the 140 grain Barnes TTSX exceeds 3000 fps. I could not be convinced to go to a 7mm08.

Another downside with a couple using the same round is the off chance of getting loads for one rifle mixed with the others. This is especially true with hand loaders . . . not a problem if you settle on the same factory loads.
 
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I had a nice accurate 700 BDL in 7mm-08 that I sold in a fit of madness. Is it EXACTLY the equal of the ,270 Winchester? Nope. Does that matter? Nope.

I do note that in one of their annual reloading guides, Guns&Ammo did say that the closest comparable cartridge to the .270 was the 7mm-08. I think they ignored the .280 Rem because it's just TOO similar.
 
its actually a big moot point though to be honest...... its real nitpicking #### to be discussing how much of a 'disadvantage' it is to use a SA Cartridge in a LA Action.

swap your bloody mag for a LA an seat em out... betya its good thing then

WL
 
Hitzy said:
You aren't loading the 270 right if it's dragging behind the 7-08. Bullet selection is more then adequate with bonded, solid, partition in various weights for big game, and now with the 6.8spc you have sub 100gr grenade bullets you can load to stupid velocity.
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This.

I've handloaded for two .270's for twenty years.

130 grain bullets at 3150 fps and 150 grain bullets at 3000 fps is not overloading, and that's chronied 4 meters in front of the muzzle.

Check older manuals from the 60's to the 80's and you'll find 150 grain loads right in the manuals doing more than that. Our member H4831 has posted some scans of these loads on this site before.

150 grain bullets at a no-BS 3000 fps is well into 7 Mag territory BTW; more than some 7 Mag factory ammo actually chronies at.

Not that there is anything wrong with the 7mm-08.

But it isn't more than the .270...
 
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