I have several... Some cheaper tasco units with the nearly invisible IR leds - I swapped out all of them with 960nm ones (pita by the way), so now they are completely invisible...also have one of the SpyPoint cams that upload images to the Web.. Nice, but big. Just yesterday, I grabbed a bushnell trophy at LeBaron with black flash invisible IF and 720p video...testing it last night with the IR set to high, and I was lighting houses across the street. Will be redoing test tonight on a lower setting, but for now I likey alot... And under 300 bucks taxes in...