Training rifle. What am I doing wrong?

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I’ve taken it to the range a couple of times now and used up more than half a brick of 22lr.
Range 25, 50, 100, There is a 200yd didn’t see point in walking that far.
I hit the little red dot occasionally enough to call it a coincidence.
Mostly I seam to be hitting the upper left quadrant almost all the time.
It’s highly unlikely to be the rifle. My Daughter seams to hit where it’s supposed to.
The sights are quite basic iron sights. V and Post
Adjustable for distance. 25 to 200 my senior eyes can almost see most of the time.
I would think the error would be magnified by range but spears to be roughly the same average. The upper left quadrant full of holes the rest undamaged
Way back in the day I lay prone to shoot.
Apparently some idiot from the government decided that’s dangerous.
So club requires sitting at a bench. Which is new to me.
Kneeling and standing at ok but I wanted to have some chance of hitting the target.
So it’s a little easier if I rest it on a bag but not much different to just holding and resting my elbows on bench.
So I’m guessing my technique is a bit crap.
Not sure why though.
 
well now you know where shoots you zero the rifle accordingly basic 22 or zero at puts it 1" high at 50 then it will zero again at 75 and will be 4-6" low at 100
what is the rifle it does not matter where it hits what are the groups like if it's shooting 1/2" groups at 50 that's excellent again does not matter where the groups then zero the groups as per above
 
270WSMXBolt said:
Are you wearing progressive lenses?
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"Adjustable for distance. 25 to 200 my senior eyes can almost see most of the time."

Eyeglasses are important for more than just finding the TV remote. throughout the day I switch between my computer glasses and progressives. No difference on the range, although I find the computer glasses give me more visual confirmation. They put the sights in focus, whereas the progressives are better for seeing the target. Each is a compromise. That said, nothing is preventing you from putting some green tape on the lower and outside parts of the lens so you are obliged to be consistent. I find the correction is poorest towards the perimeter of the lens.
 
JMacd62 said:
I’ve taken it to the range a couple of times now and used up more than half a brick of 22lr.
Range 25, 50, 100, There is a 200yd didn’t see point in walking that far.
I hit the little red dot occasionally enough to call it a coincidence.
Mostly I seam to be hitting the upper left quadrant almost all the time.
It’s highly unlikely to be the rifle. My Daughter seams to hit where it’s supposed to.
The sights are quite basic iron sights. V and Post
Adjustable for distance. 25 to 200 my senior eyes can almost see most of the time.
I would think the error would be magnified by range but spears to be roughly the same average. The upper left quadrant full of holes the rest undamaged
Way back in the day I lay prone to shoot.
Apparently some idiot from the government decided that’s dangerous.
So club requires sitting at a bench. Which is new to me.
Kneeling and standing at ok but I wanted to have some chance of hitting the target.
So it’s a little easier if I rest it on a bag but not much different to just holding and resting my elbows on bench.
So I’m guessing my technique is a bit crap.
Not sure why though.
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maybe your sights need to be adjusted to suit
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
"Adjustable for distance. 25 to 200 my senior eyes can almost see most of the time."

Eyeglasses are important for more than just finding the TV remote. throughout the day I switch between my computer glasses and progressives. No difference on the range, although I find the computer glasses give me more visual confirmation. They put the sights in focus, whereas the progressives are better for seeing the target. Each is a compromise. That said, nothing is preventing you from putting some green tape on the lower and outside parts of the lens so you are obliged to be consistent. I find the correction is poorest towards the perimeter of the lens.
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Progressive lenses cause your head to align differently between distances. So head and eye alignment can change between the iron sights and the focal point downrange. It can be particularly significant for someone who hasn't been adjusting with time as the eyesight changes... Old glasses... many reasons for such a basic question... If the shooter hasn't gotten used to the change they may be doing things unconsciously like cheek pressure on the stalk... so many things happen with head movement is what I'm getting at. Bad eyesight is a tough thing to work through. Cheers
 
270WSMXBolt said:
Are you wearing progressive lenses?
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No.
My eyesight is ok for distance. Reading my arms just aren’t long enough any more so I have reading glasses.
I have been just been using regular safety glasses. Hence a little difficulty with the iron sights. Getting everything in focus at the same time.
 
My old cooey 84 cadet rifle shot a wee bit high and right.
I played with the sites a bit but ultimately they wud shift back.
So i just learned to adjust to it.
Like my father before me, i took a fair number of small game with that rifle.
Mostly on snowshoes.

Dunno.
 
Everyones eyes can be different when it comes to sighting a rifle in. I have seen three different points of impact with the same rifle and 3 different shooters. It is common.

Sight your rifle in for you.

And old eyes will shoot with a scope considerably better compared to iron sights.
 
maybe compare your sight picture with the one your daughter describes that she looks for
Also rifle cant may be different, the way two shooters hang on to and shoulder a gun makes a difference
 
So your the typical reading glasses guy.. That makes focus on the rear sight difficult. I'm not saying it's the issue... but you may need to learn to adapt or sight for your eye, not your daughters. And for what it's worth... a scope can easily help improve your situation. My initial thought from your description is you may be canting the rifle. If you string vertically your not canting IMHO. But you described shooting higher to one side at distance so my brain just kinda thought that... Cheers
 
Are you sitting above your rifle looking down at an angle or lined up so you don't have to scrunch lower to look down the barrel. One of the best tips I was ever given was to adjust bench seat lower so my eyes and the barrel were on similar planes and just pull the butt stock almost straight back. He was a military marksman so I listened and started shooting more consistent groups.
 
You need a pair of glasses for shooting which place the front sight and nothing else in focus. You will automatically center on the target even though it is blurred. Believe me, after decades of shooting competition and achieving Master class in rifle and pistol , staying on the front sight is the easiest and hardest thing to do consistently.
 
tacoman said:
You need a pair of glasses for shooting which place the front sight and nothing else in focus. You will automatically center on the target even though it is blurred. Believe me, after decades of shooting competition and achieving Master class in rifle and pistol , staying on the front sight is the easiest and hardest thing to do consistently.
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This works!👍
Cat
 
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