trainning dummy rounds???

I've not seen any online recently. Another, and probably cheaper, idea is to find someone who reloads and get them to seat a bullet in a casing without primer or powder. Might be two bucks for a few of those, whereas most places charge fifteen bucks or more for the purple imitation ammo.
 
Pretty much sold everywhere but you may have to email them to order them as not all places advertise them on their web site. Gagnons in Oshawa has them on the site. I bought some at Sail, Williams arms in Port Perry keeps them in stock and they will ship to you. Hope this helps.
 
Stevebot-7 said:
I've not seen any online recently. Another, and probably cheaper, idea is to find someone who reloads and get them to seat a bullet in a casing without primer or powder. Might be two bucks for a few of those, whereas most places charge fifteen bucks or more for the purple imitation ammo.
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Not a good idea, real "snap-caps" are obviously dummy rounds, painted red or another bright colour and have a clear plastic primmer, there is also no seam between the bullet and the casing so its one peice.

Having a real bullet and casing would be dangerous since it would be hard to tell it from a live round. Of course you could look at the primer but i have had a primer get hit and not go off but still look dimpled. Chamber it again and it fired. If the primer was removed it may be hard on the firearm to dry fire it since the firing pin will not be hitting anything. There are probably lots of different scenarios but the point is if a live round gets mixed in with your "real dummy" rounds you could have a deadly accident in your house.

Snap-caps can usually be purchased at any gun shop for a wide variety of cartridge designs. There are also lots of places online you can buy them. The real ones are a bit expensive but worth it. Cheap junk ones could potentially damage your chamber, firing pin or extractors if they are made of some hard metal or sized improperly.

I keep a few for each gun i own just incase i want to cycle it in the house or if im showing a newbie how to operate it. They are well worth the price for the safety the provide.
 
KNO3- said:
Not a good idea, real "snap-caps" are obviously dummy rounds, painted red or another bright colour and have a clear plastic primmer, there is also no seam between the bullet and the casing so its one peice.

Having a real bullet and casing would be dangerous since it would be hard to tell it from a live round. Of course you could look at the primer but i have had a primer get hit and not go off but still look dimpled. Chamber it again and it fired. If the primer was removed it may be hard on the firearm to dry fire it since the firing pin will not be hitting anything. There are probably lots of different scenarios but the point is if a live round gets mixed in with your "real dummy" rounds you could have a deadly accident in your house.

Snap-caps can usually be purchased at any gun shop for a wide variety of cartridge designs. There are also lots of places online you can buy them. The real ones are a bit expensive but worth it. Cheap junk ones could potentially damage your chamber, firing pin or extractors if they are made of some hard metal or sized improperly.

I keep a few for each gun i own just in case i want to cycle it in the house or if im showing a newbie how to operate it. They are well worth the price for the safety the provide.
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Actually, this isnt a problem. As long as you cross drill the casing. This is how I make my "Snap caps". I also put a small piece of doweling inside, and a pice of rubber in the primer well.

The dowel prevents the round from being pushed in by the CofR, and the rubber cushions the firing pin. the cross drilled holes help you identify them, and makes it impossible to reload.
 
i just went with snap caps for my 9mm, 223 and 12 gauge. pricey but i don't have the means of using future spent casings as dummy rounds. i would love to make my own, but maybe one day. my local tactical shop sells decent dummy rounds but they are real brass with orange tips. they kinda made me nervous so i got red snap caps instead.

223 brass dummy round - 1.09

223 snap caps for 3 - 11.99
 
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Had a lot of trouble finding snap caps locally for the Tokarev T-33.

Did a quick check on Ebay, found them no problem and shipped within 3 weeks for a couple of bucks extra over retail.

Real piece of mind when it comes to showing someone how to operate the gun for the first time. Even if they cost fifty bucks, the safety aspect is well worth it.

Every new gun I buy, snap caps get bought along with them if it is a different calibre from what I already have.
 
+1 the reason why i wish to get snap caps is for indoor training prior to getting guests out to a range. Kinda see if they are worthy of it.

Anyone got an exelent place to find them on the net? Need many different calibers.

Anyad Pitchaya said:
Had a lot of trouble finding snap caps locally for the Tokarev T-33.

Did a quick check on Ebay, found them no problem and shipped within 3 weeks for a couple of bucks extra over retail.

Real piece of mind when it comes to showing someone how to operate the gun for the first time. Even if they cost fifty bucks, the safety aspect is well worth it.

Every new gun I buy, snap caps get bought along with them if it is a different calibre from what I already have.
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Speer makes the ultimate handgun training round.. Plastic bullet , primer fired .. 45apc requires a primed brass cartridge , but lesser sized carts are available in plastic .. Sub 400 fps .. .. No power to cycle .. But adds an extra if teaching someone home defense and you want to get an actual round on a target in the garage :)

I bought some years ago 10+ , but I am sure they still exist .. Was Hard to find someone who would ship to Canada back then .. May be harder now.

There are always two sides to every story .. So there will be some that say they will leave plastic in the bore, but if use for the above purpose as opposed to extensive target practice with a restricted firearm .. I saw no side effects ..

I take delivery of a JR Carbine ( 45apc ) next week .. My test unit for the speer Bullets was a Glock 21c. ... I wonder if the primer can get the plastic bullet out of an extra 10 inches of barrel, do not think heat would be any problem , and as no powder to burn , can't see any increase in fps .. I will do some reading before I try that... :)

Sort if spelling / typo , but using an iPad and does not want to scroll back ..

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Wow! I've used the Speer plastic bullets out of primed cases in an abandoned office, but NOT for tactical training!!! Like our mommies said, "It is all fun and games until someone loses an eye."

As for dummy ammo, provided one respects the four rules of gun safety, there should be no chance of a deadly accident. That clearly does not, ever, involve tactical training in a home. (Since, in a true tactical situation, you cannot prevent your muzzle from covering exterior walls, doors, or other non-cover concealment materials. Ergo, you cannot be certain your muzzle does not cover something -someone - you are not prepared to destroy.

If you gotta have something in your hand while tactically moving in your home, a plastic toy gun with the blaze orange muzzle would be appropriate.

Dummy rounds are for function testing, not dry practice. Oh, I know, there is the school that says dry practice, including tripping the trigger - see above about four rules - will ruin your gun. Assuming a modern steel centerfire arm, you could be so lucky as to dry practice enough strokes to damage the gun!!
 
I've also made my own out of Blazer aluminum cases picked up at the range, some hot glue to fill the case and a heavy crimp on a bullet. Since I have never owned a single live round of Blazer, nor ever intend to, and they are stored separately from any live ammo..the chance of a ND is realistically no different than a "name brand" snap cap.

As for their use, it goes well beyond "function testing".
- Reload drills for those of us who compete.
- IA drills of all kinds.
- if you want to see if you or somebody else has a "flinch"..next range day randomly load each others mags with a dummy round and see what happens. Video it if possible..you will be surprised !
 
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