Transfer times out of Quebec

[Shanks4300]

So I'm perusing a pistol located in Quebec; anyone know if the provincial CFO there holds up transfers if they are leaving the province? It would be a person to person transfer coming to manitoba. Just not a fan of unnecessary waiting.

 

[graydog]

I do not think the Quebec CFO has anything to do with the transfer to you in Manitoba, that will be handled by your CFO. Where they will screw you around is taking there sweet time giving the seller the short term ATT so he can send it to you, The last one I bought from Quebec took the fellow who sold it to me almost a week to get his short term ATT so he could take it to the post office.

Graydog

 

[Shanks4300]

Ok. Thx. A week isn't bad. Ridiculous he needs a statt to mail a gun.

 

[red_bailey]

The steps are for the CFC to verify the seller's and buyer's and the gun's information, then the transfer is sent to the buyer's CFO for whatever scrutiny they wish to give it.

If the Quebec CFO were involved, which he won't be, he'd probably be glad to see a hand-gun leaving his independent nation.

As for your seller being delayed for an ATT to mail it, yes apparently they do not do them over the telephone there; it's all hard copy. What anyone can do to get around this is to sign up for a Canada Post VentureOne™ card: it makes you into a ‘small business,’ and as such you can request to have CP come to your door to pick up out-going parcels. You sign up on their site and they'll send you a card in a week or two, but give you the number right away so you can use it (and get slightly discounted rates).

 

[graydog]

As for your seller being delayed for an ATT to mail it, yes apparently they do not do them over the telephone there; it's all hard copy. What anyone can do to get around this is to sign up for a Canada Post VentureOne™ card: it makes you into a ‘small business,’ and as such you can request to have CP come to your door to pick up out-going parcels. You sign up on their site and they'll send you a card in a week or two, but give you the number right away so you can use it (and get slightly discounted rates).[/QUOTE]

Is this a legal way to do it? If it is, it is a great idea.

Graydog

 

[red_bailey]

Is this a legal way to do it? If it is, it is a great idea.

It is absolutely within the Law as written, and other individuals have done this in the past. While that's not always an example to follow since they have their own set of Regulations (SOR 98-210), gun dealers usually operate this way, having their out-going mail picked up at the store without an ATT.

When you do a transfer the CFC representative will likely read from the script: ‘Remember, when you get notification you'll need to call for an ATT.’ Just tell them ‘No need, I'll just package it and get Canada Post to pick it up at my door.’ See if they put up a fuss; though not contrary to any law, they sometimes don't like people doing things differently from everybody else.

Canada Post will treat you as a small business if you sign up for the free VentureOne™ card, and pick up all the crap you sold on eBay at your house. You can purchase and print the mailing label on-line, and pack up the gun, all without leaving your house. Technically you can't bring the box past your door's threshold while giving it to the postal carrier, but by the CPC Act, as soon as you hand it to ‘a person authorized by the Corporation to receive mailable matter,’ it is considered in post and no ATT is required.

You can also get packages picked up for delivery by UPS or CanPar, but likely need an actual business account with them, never mind that only Canada Post is mentioned in the Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations (SOR 98-209 S.16).