transition from single to double stage trigger

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Over the past few years I have been shooting with a single stage trigger set to 4 lb. I purchased a new rifle and it comes standard with a double stage trigger that you can set from 1.5kg -2kg pull. I have several hundred rounds down range with the new set up. I am finding that with the extra travel that the two stage has,it is causing me to through the occasional round right or a bit high right. I'm especial having troubles with stages/ course of fire that have short exposure, where, in the past I did not. Its difficult to prime the trigger and not feel like I'm rushing the shoot, or over priming and firing to early. I know this is mostly a matter of muscle memory and more time on the new rifle but does anyone out there have any stories or wisdom on something similar?

Nate
 
how adjustable is the trigger? on my 2 stages, iv got the 1st stage at 1lbs, and the second at 2.5 lbs, its pretty clear when you have taken up the 1st stage and are about to break the trigger, as it is a dead stop between the 2 stages, haveing a 2 stage and having the 1st stage light and the 2nd stage almost the exact same pull weight is pointless IMO may as well keep 1 stage
 
The two stages are not set at the same pull weight, like you described my 2 stages are set up similar to yours. 1st stage 1lb and the second set to about 3lb. My difficulty is cooping with the travel of the first stages during matches/courses of fire with short target exposures. I tend to torque my rifle slightly right because I'm trying to break the trigger fast. It was a much simpler process with a single stage trigger. Should I be working on a continues pull or into two separate inputs, prime and break but seems to be slower.
 
Personally the prime and break would be the way to go. Take up the prime before you need to. I do the same with savage accutrigger. Take up the safety and treat the trigger itself as the second stage.
 
doc25 said:
Personally the prime and break would be the way to go. Take up the prime before you need to. I do the same with savage accutrigger. Take up the safety and treat the trigger itself as the second stage.
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This. Take up the "slack" of the 1st stage and ride the "wall" of the 2nd stage.
 
I shoot with a garbage trigger in my service rifle and this is exactly what I do, and most of us do when shooting competitions.

Take up the slack before or at the beginning of the exposure, and on release, only go far enough forward to reset the trigger but not so far as to need to take up the slack again. I can only imagine it being even easier to do and more of a clear cut difference with a match trigger.
 
I personally greatly prefer two stages and they are not for everyone. You do not want to do a continuous pull, as other have said, pull to the wall, wait till everything aligns, then break the shot.

Are you shooting an AI by chance?
 
I'd say you are "torqueing" or throwing shots because you are shooting a two stage trigger the same way you would shoot a single stage trigger. Two stage triggers require two actions for each pull compared to one action with a single stage trigger.

By trying to take the shot with one action you have a couple of things working against you. First you have longer travel required for that trigger pull. Second you have a change in required force part way through that pull. Both the longer travel and change of force required can contribute to positional changes that result in the "torqueing" you are experiencing.

As others have said, it's best to take up the slack and ride the second stage. This would be considered the first action.

Once you are ready to take the shot there is no more movement before the break. Just a little force. This final action would act more like the pull on a single stage trigger. If the second stage is heavy enough there should be no worry of accidentally pulling a premature shot. I actually find I'm in more control of the shot break on a two stage because everything is already accounted for and ready for that bit of extra force to finish the job.

All that being said it takes some getting used to to be able to do it properly under circumstances that require either a fast reaction time or a fast rate of fire.

Personally I'll take a two stage trigger any day for benchrest shooting paper or steel where precision is the main goal and time is on my side. I also prefer a two stage for example, while hunting and taking a shot at a running target. Once that initial slack is taken up I feel that I have everything ready and am in total control.

For fast action shooting I can get used to a two stage but I still prefer a good light single stage trigger as there is just simply less to have to account for.

Others opinion may vary. It's all about what you can make work for you.
 
jiffx2781 said:
I'd say you are "torqueing" or throwing shots because you are shooting a two stage trigger the same way you would shoot a single stage trigger. Two stage triggers require two actions for each pull compared to one action with a single stage trigger.
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This was my conclusion as well, I have added dry firing to my training regiment, I really appreciate the advise here guys, love this community!

Nate
 
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