Trap & Skeet Shotgun

Sniffer said:
As someone who has never shot an O/U how does it feel compared to a semi? To be clear I have shot LOTS of semis but nothing with a barrel over 21".

I generally don't like front heavy guns so I am intrigued.

The semi option has less metal out front (single barrel) but is longer overall (owing to the action) which probably makes it feel more front heavy.

The O/U is shorter as it has basically no action but it does have more metal up front owing to two barrels.

When I hear folks say that longer barrels "swing" better it seems upside down to me as I imagine swinging something long and heavy is harder than something that is shorter and / or lighter.

Thoughts?
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Have you looked at these

https://thegundealer.ca/product/caesar-guerini-summit-trap-combo-12gax2-3-4-30-bbl/

I have one that I use for trap doubles but it also works for sporting or skeet the rib and comb are both adjustable so you can get a 60/40 POI all the way up to 100/0 which will cover all shotgun disciplines, they come with 5 chokes 1C, LM, M, IM and LF this one has 7 chokes so I assume a S and F added, they balance nice but are a tad on the heavy side at almost 9 lbs but swing really nice and after a long day shooting you will appreciate the extra weight that soaks up recoil. Anyway just my 2 cents worth.
 
Sniffer said:
As someone who has never shot an O/U how does it feel compared to a semi? To be clear I have shot LOTS of semis but nothing with a barrel over 21".

I generally don't like front heavy guns so I am intrigued.

The semi option has less metal out front (single barrel) but is longer overall (owing to the action) which probably makes it feel more front heavy.

The O/U is shorter as it has basically no action but it does have more metal up front owing to two barrels.

When I hear folks say that longer barrels "swing" better it seems upside down to me as I imagine swinging something long and heavy is harder than something that is shorter and / or lighter.

Thoughts?
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It all depends on the guns. A semi m4 is a brick and an a400l is a dream. Wood vs synthetic. Gas vs inertia and the gas system plays a role in the weight and handling of a semi. The same is true with the ou guns. Material and thicknesses all add up. The beretta ultraleggero is suppose to light. I haven't shot one but they were designed to be light. They have polymer action plates. The 688 is thicker than a 686 to add weight. The width and height of the rib also adds to a ou. Not all ribs are ventilated and an ou generally has 3 ribs. Chokes add thickness and weight as well. 2 barrels 2 chokes.
Gas guns tend to keep most the weight back between the hands or over the supporting hand with only a single barrel sticking past. An ou has more metal passed the support hand but also has the most weight based in the action

Another thing often so overlooked by critics about the balance is they swing an unloaded gun and make their decision about the balance. An overunder the shells are stacked in the action right between the hands where as a semi the weight of the shells pushes the weight further over the support hand. Especially if using longer heavier loads.

Wind effects an ou more than an autoloader or sxs as well
 
Hello,

New to the site / firearms in general. Looking to get started in clays and trying to figure out what to buy for shells. Any reccos? Is there a noticeable difference between steel / lead training loads? I’ve heard “buy cheap stack deep” but I don’t want to buy trash ammo.
 
Pewpewpeew said:
Hello,

New to the site / firearms in general. Looking to get started in clays and trying to figure out what to buy for shells. Any reccos? Is there a noticeable difference between steel / lead training loads? I’ve heard “buy cheap stack deep” but I don’t want to buy trash ammo.
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Gun Club, Top Gun, Challenger target loads are the most common, at most clubs, and they work fine in most shotguns. I shot my first 25 straight with the 410 with Estate loads, which are about as cheap as it gets. Stick with lead ,#8 works for all games, if the targets don't break, it's because you missed.
 
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