Traumatic Brain Injury?

Boomer

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I'm not sure what happened. Maybe I fell and banged my head, or perhaps I got too close to one of the targets at our dynamite shoot, but whatever the cause, I've developed a yearning for an AR-15. At first I was patient. I'm a bolt gun guy (and too old a dog to learn new tricks) so deep down I knew that like a cold, this too would pass. But it hasn't! So I began to consider a simple remedy, just by an AR!

But the more I looked into the problem, the more complicated it seemed to become. I know I want a gun that's ready to run the way I want it, rather than building a Frankenstein gun from parts made by various manufacturers only to find they won't fit a cheapy Norinco or Olympic Arms basic rifle, after waiting weeks for delivery. But which gas system, gas piston or DGI? Do I want a stainless steel match barrel or a chrome lined service rifle barrel? Which sights? What stock design? Which manufacturer? The names run through my injured mind like water in a stream: LMT, Daniel Defense, Stag Arms, Armalite, Colt, Noveske, Rock River, Bushmaster, the list seems endless and the projected cost not insignificant.

The AR that I really liked way back when, was the XM177E, but good luck with that. So if getting a select fire, silenced shorty is off the table, what are the alternatives? Perhaps a full sized rifle with a fixed stock, carry handle, and fixed front sight with national match trigger and sights. But while I appreciate a fine trigger, a tiny peep doesn't fit in with my idea of shooting, and the fold out of the way sights allow for optics where a scope mounted on top of the handle always looked goofy to me. Does tightening up an AR for match shooting adversely impact upon its reliability? I bet it does. Neither does there appear to be any advantage to the fixed stock over the collapsible.

So what do the big name experts use? Clint Smith has his own version of a Noveske, and I'll admit I'm sorely tempted by the Thunder Ranch gun despite it's intimidating cost. The folks at Gunsite appear to like the S&W, so not surprisingly, there doesn't seem to much common ground to draw between them. The boys at Magpul have become pretty successful at promoting their brand, but Magpul assemblies are commonly found on the ARs of many manufacturers, so they are careful not to push one brand too strongly over another. If I was to purchase an AR today, I think Stag Arms Model 8 piston gun would win out, but we'll see where I'm at come spring which I've set as a deadline to have my prescription filled. Ya know, maybe, just like all gun purchases, there's just no wrong answer, provided the buyer picks a gun that is appropriate to his intended use.
 
I am working on number 2 now just 2 weeks after finishing my first

Would any of you know how long in inches is S&J hardwear,s mid length hand sure is I would like to get it to use on my build with an 11.5 inch barrel
 
Boomer,

I was like that at one time too. Now I have 6 AR based rifles. 3 in 308 and 3 in 223/5.56. There is no right answer of only one with the AR. That being said in your case I can recommend one that Im fairly sure you will be happy with.

For a base patrol carbine I have an Armalite AR15 enhanced patrol carbine. Fairly basic but great price and even though not "milspec" in a number of components it's fit and finish are very good. Next is a Stag 2T. Free float barrel and done to milspec. Nice all around rifle.

Now the one I recommend for you...

LMT mrp. The others are cool, lots of fun and good products. The LMT mrp is the next level up. The trigger needs an upgrade but that's it. Also you can change the barrels yourself. It comes ready to go. Good stock which has a cheek weld that will be more like your bolt guns, a good ergo pistol grip, excellent fit/finish and a monolithic rail with built in QR sing detachments. It also comes with detach sights.

The barrels on the mrp are mike rock, even the CL ones. While availability of barrels isn't great here and they are expensive you can find them and sometimes for a good price. Want a short barrel this month? No problem. Want a SS barrel? Yup you can change it out in a few minutes.

The main advantage of the Noveske is the barrel. The SS LMT ones are right up there.

The KAC are nice but expensive. The main advantages they offer are ambi lower and a lighter upper. Right now the highest quality for your dollar is the LMT mrp. LE and Mil get $100 off as well.

The DD V5 seems good but I still think it's worth going a few hundred more for the LMT.

The ADCOR upper is another possibility. I have one on order but haven't seen one in real life. It seems like an inovative product and by all reports it's sub Moa with good fit/finish and reliability. That being said I would still recommend the LMT. You're a bolt gun shooter. You will eventually want to see how accurate you can get with an AR. The LMT let's you do this without a whole new rifle or upper. On a side note the AR is one of the few semi autos that can shoot with a high end tactical bolt gun when modified for accuracy (trigger and barrel).

Also get someone who is good with the AR to run you threw it. After about 30 seconds of being shown the manual of arms along with a few minutes of practice it will feel like you've handled one of these all your life. There's a reason it's still a current design.

The AR is the modern rifle. We were royally screwed with it being restricted. A similiar comparison would have been to restrict the Mauser rifle bolt design and any "variants" as it was a military rifle and has no sporting purposes. A lot of hunters and target shooters would have been screwed by this back in the day. We are facing the equivalent to this today.
 
Boomer,

I was like that at one time too. Now I have 6 AR based rifles. 3 in 308 and 3 in 223/5.56. There is no right answer of only one with the AR. That being said in your case I can recommend one that Im fairly sure you will be happy with.

For a base patrol carbine I have an Armalite AR15 enhanced patrol carbine. Fairly basic but great price and even though not "milspec" in a number of components it's fit and finish are very good. Next is a Stag 2T. Free float barrel and done to milspec. Nice all around rifle.

Now the one I recommend for you...

LMT mrp. The others are cool, lots of fun and good products. The LMT mrp is the next level up. The trigger needs an upgrade but that's it. Also you can change the barrels yourself. It comes ready to go. Good stock which has a cheek weld that will be more like your bolt guns, a good ergo pistol grip, excellent fit/finish and a monolithic rail with built in QR sing detachments. It also comes with detach sights.

The barrels on the mrp are mike rock, even the CL ones. While availability of barrels isn't great here and they are expensive you can find them and sometimes for a good price. Want a short barrel this month? No problem. Want a SS barrel? Yup you can change it out in a few minutes.

The main advantage of the Noveske is the barrel. The SS LMT ones are right up there.

The KAC are nice but expensive. The main advantages they offer are ambi lower and a lighter upper. Right now the highest quality for your dollar is the LMT mrp. LE and Mil get $100 off as well.

The DD V5 seems good but I still think it's worth going a few hundred more for the LMT.

The ADCOR upper is another possibility. I have one on order but haven't seen one in real life. It seems like an inovative product and by all reports it's sub Moa with good fit/finish and reliability. That being said I would still recommend the LMT. You're a bolt gun shooter. You will eventually want to see how accurate you can get with an AR. The LMT let's you do this without a whole new rifle or upper. On a side note the AR is one of the few semi autos that can shoot with a high end tactical bolt gun when modified for accuracy (trigger and barrel).

Also get someone who is good with the AR to run you threw it. After about 30 seconds of being shown the manual of arms along with a few minutes of practice it will feel like you've handled one of these all your life. There's a reason it's still a current design.

The AR is the modern rifle. We were royally screwed with it being restricted. A similiar comparison would have been to restrict the Mauser rifle bolt design and any "variants" as it was a military rifle and has no sporting purposes. A lot of hunters and target shooters would have been screwed by this back in the day. We are facing the equivalent to this today.

Thanks for the tips, but you do know that you've just muddied the waters!!;) The gas piston BEAR system looks pretty good doesn't it, and the LMT stares up at me from the back page of the Access each month.

I'm still optimistic enough to think we can have the firearm classification provisions of C-68 overturned.
 
I don't worry too much about who made the parts on my AR's. Brand names aren't all that important IMO. The biggest issue you are going to have is choosing a caliber. There are loads to choose from.

Thus far the chambering is the easy part; it will be either 5.56 or .223 Wylde or a specific manufacturer's propriety chambering designed for both 5.56 and .223. I have a .308 gas gun already, the 6.8 hasn't caught my attention yet, and the .243 isn't on my radar for this application.
 
I bought a Norinco with a 10.5" barrel as my first.

Reason being I knew nothing about them. So I would learn on a cheap rifle. Expected lots of problems, so I would get to know this gun inside and out through books and our members help, who are more knowlegable than me. Then progress into some of the higher priced rifles. May have 4 to 6 rifles before I'm done.

Most will balk at Norinco. I was reluctant to purchase one. But it has been good so far. Only took me 24 years to get an AR. And its a fun gun to shoot. Especially on low light days for muzzle flash. May be a good starter rifle for you.
 
I like building my own that way I can research and pic what I want as apposed to buying a complet rifle like an LMT and then turning it into a frankingun.

But going with a complet rifle is perfectly fine if you don want to get into searching and ordering the individual parts you want.

Cheers
 
There is definitely more 'gucci' kit out there, but I will say that our two 14.5 Norinco M4 rifles from Marstar have been flawless in operation! Really like them ALOT!

Cheers
Jay
 
I must have gotten TBI cuz this is the AR that I ended purchasing first: SR25 Knights Armament Carbine

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Then I needed an 80s era CAR-15 (still waiting for parts for it)
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Now am waiting for a KAC SR-15E3 11.5" CQB

So its OK to have these brain attacks.
 
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