Treat plated bullets as cast?
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Chuckbuster
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I use data for cast and plated interchangeably, and have done so for a couple of decades. As suggested, start at the low end and work up for your particular gun. But, I doubt you'll run into trouble, enjoy!
Do you mean 245 gr. .429 bullets? A 245 gr. .249 would be one hell of a long bullet.
I have always read that plated bullets are to be treated as cast and have loaded thousands of .45 acp's that way with nary a problem. I find the Frontier bullets to be good ones and have never had a problem loading them to the top end of the cast data.
Darn, m,eant 429. Bad fingers, bad.
I am not familiar with Frontier bullets, so I can't comment, but the Campro bullets site suggests starting at the top of the cast bullet data, and work up from there if wanted.
The cast bullet load I use for .38 special is 3.0 gr of Win 231, and that powder charge was not sufficient. I got the odd one stuck in the barrel, which was not particularly dangerous because I was firing slowly, off a bag doing load testing. Now speed shooting would have been another matter entirely.
I quit shooting after getting a few squibs, and pulled the bullets out of the rest, so I could weigh the charges, just to find out what happened.
They ranged from 2.8 grains to 3.2 grains. My powder measure is the RCBS uniflow with the small cylinder. Maybe other measures are more consistent than that, I don't know, but to be on the safe side, I would say do not load to the minimum cast bullet data.
The cast bullet load I use for .38 special is 3.0 gr of Win 231, and that powder charge was not sufficient. I got the odd one stuck in the barrel, which was not particularly dangerous because I was firing slowly, off a bag doing load testing. Now speed shooting would have been another matter entirely.
I quit shooting after getting a few squibs, and pulled the bullets out of the rest, so I could weigh the charges, just to find out what happened.
They ranged from 2.8 grains to 3.2 grains. My powder measure is the RCBS uniflow with the small cylinder. Maybe other measures are more consistent than that, I don't know, but to be on the safe side, I would say do not load to the minimum cast bullet data.
Hi,
I use various Frontier bullets, and I treat them as plated bullets or jacketed bullets. These are hard cast and have a thick plating, so will be more difficult to push through the barrel than a softer lead bullet. Also bear in mind that these are heavier, i.e. 245gr and not 240gr, so reduce your powder charge.
In my various 44 Mag I have used the 200gr, 245 gr and 300gr, and all work well, except for the long 300gr which does not feed well in my Marlin 1894. I have also used the 220gr in .308", the 300gr in .375" and the 510gr in .458" bullet diameters. My only complaint is that the 200gr bullets for the 44 mag are about .428 - .4285", and not true .429", but are fine for playing IPSC.
RSA1
I use various Frontier bullets, and I treat them as plated bullets or jacketed bullets. These are hard cast and have a thick plating, so will be more difficult to push through the barrel than a softer lead bullet. Also bear in mind that these are heavier, i.e. 245gr and not 240gr, so reduce your powder charge.
In my various 44 Mag I have used the 200gr, 245 gr and 300gr, and all work well, except for the long 300gr which does not feed well in my Marlin 1894. I have also used the 220gr in .308", the 300gr in .375" and the 510gr in .458" bullet diameters. My only complaint is that the 200gr bullets for the 44 mag are about .428 - .4285", and not true .429", but are fine for playing IPSC.
RSA1
Test fired 5 round today with 23.0 grains of H110 over a mag primer.
Way to hot. Lyman's shows a minimum of 22.5 for a 240gr lino, while it also shows 24.0gr min for a 245 grain lino. Hmmm.. Maybe it's time to try that IMR4227 I have . Lyman shows 21.5 min for a 240gr, and 20.2 for a 245 linotype. Need to think up a starting load....
Way to hot. Lyman's shows a minimum of 22.5 for a 240gr lino, while it also shows 24.0gr min for a 245 grain lino. Hmmm.. Maybe it's time to try that IMR4227 I have . Lyman shows 21.5 min for a 240gr, and 20.2 for a 245 linotype. Need to think up a starting load....
